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Cause he's said as much.

He's got enough money for a hillbilly to live in Missourah.

Buehrle will teach the Royals' pitchers many things about how to look like you've been clocked in the face with a pan.

Per Chat with Doug Padilla today:

Doug Padilla (1:32 PM)

Kenny took some of the beat writers to dinner last night (I had the scallops). He tried to sound optimistic on Buehrle but ended up being more reflective on the lefty's tenure. Sounded somber at times.

I don't see Buehrle signing with the Cardnals or Brewers. The Cards just extended Chris Carpenter (2yr/$21M), picked up Adam Wainwrights option ($9M) and have Kyle Lohse ($11.875M) and Jake Westbrook ($8.5M) signed for next year. They also have to resign Roidface.

The Brewers have Greinke, Marcum, Gallardo and Wolf all under team control for next season and have some nice pitchers in the minors. I think they'll also make a run at Prince especially if they make it to the WS.

I think Buehrle will resign with the Sox for around the same amount of money but fewer years. I'll say 2yrs with an option.

Quote:

jcrasnickJerry Crasnick
The #Marlins people are meeting with the representatives for Mark Buehrle today in Milwaukee
1 hour ago

That's at least twice now by my count.

Curious Hair wrote:

Buehrle will teach the Royals' pitchers many things about how to look like you've been clocked in the face with a pan.

And how to be considered an ACE by the fans even though you are 10 games over 500 in the last 6 years

rogers park bryan wrote:

Curious Hair wrote:

Buehrle will teach the Royals' pitchers many things about how to look like you've been clocked in the face with a pan.

And how to be considered an ACE by the fans even though you are 10 games over 500 in the last 6 years

I hope the reference to pitcher wins is a joke.

I also don't know who considers him an "ACE".
#1 starter ≠ ACE.

Oh I see what you did there.

You're right, every pitcher with a losing record is a loser.

Losers are worthless and hold no value.
You don't win World Series with losers on your team.
Only Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Felix Hernandez, Clayton Kershaw can get you there.
It's a simple pitcher hitter game.

My initial comment was to be taken as, "referencing wins for pitchers is not a true grade of their individual performance or value."
Guess I should have just said that. I will next time because I get responses like yours.

However, you found it fitting that I must point out a pitcher who is viewed as "good" with a "losing record" over 200 career decisions.

Why not find a pitcher viewed as bad with a winning record?
Carlos Zambrano has a record of 125-81 over 11 seasons. 60.7%
John Lackey: 128-94; 57.7%

In his first 11 years, Nolan Ryan only had a winning percentage of 51.7%, 167-158. What a fucking bum.

Good pitchers win more than half their games. Point taken. You have enlightened my baseball knowledge.

Author:	Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:50 am ]
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Buerhle is now in THE SPOT.......where every professional ballplayer wants to be......HE IS IN POSITION TO BE THE TARGET IN A BIDDING WAR BETWEEN THE YANKEES AND RED SOX!!!!!! Kenny Williams was busy wasting money on idiots like The Oaf, Rios and Peavy and the 200 innings per season pitcher goes on the market.

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:09 am ]
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Meh. I'm done overpaying for people. And there's no way he's going to NY or Boston. It's here, St. Louis, or hunting.

Author:	Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:16 am ]
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Well, since the White Sox probably lost between $40 and $60 million dollars this season, I'm sure they are done overpaying, too. Buerhle's agent sure as Hell will listen to offers. Why assume that Buerhle is just some goofy Hick when the jackpot is 2 months away?

Author:	Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:18 am ]
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There is always that Players Union that just loves to raise the bar on salaries.

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:27 am ]
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Cause he's said as much. He's got enough money for a hillbilly to live in Missourah.

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Author:	Elmhurst Steve [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:39 am ]
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Look at the Cardinals and how they finished the season to qualify for the postseason....then think about how thats the team he grew up rooting for and how it's the state he still resides in (Missouri) and the fact that they need another dependable starter. I say he signs there even if bigger offers come from N.Y. and Boston.

Author:	Hawkeye Vince [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:18 am ]
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Buerhle would be a great 3rd starter for the Cards behind Carpenter and Wainwright (when he gets back from injury). I could see it happening.

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:21 am ]
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Thanks for restating my point Steve. Jerk.

Author:	good dolphin [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:32 am ]
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Bob, Buehrle would have a 5 ERA in the AL East and stonerose would hold him in the same esteerm as Burnett. I wouldn't be suprised to see Buehrle in Milwaukee next year.

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:21 pm ]
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I don't see Buehrle signing with the Cardnals or Brewers. The Cards just extended Chris Carpenter (2yr/$21M), picked up Adam Wainwrights option ($9M) and have Kyle Lohse ($11.875M) and Jake Westbrook ($8.5M) signed for next year. They also have to resign Roidface. The Brewers have Greinke, Marcum, Gallardo and Wolf all under team control for next season and have some nice pitchers in the minors. I think they'll also make a run at Prince especially if they make it to the WS. I think Buehrle will resign with the Sox for around the same amount of money but fewer years. I'll say 2yrs with an option.

Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:43 pm ]
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He will go to Texas.

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:59 pm ]
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Maybe if the lose CJ Wilson but I really don't see Buehrle as a fit in Texas either . The team that scares me the most is the Royals. Not only is Kansas City much closer to Buehrle's home the Royals have said they will aggressively look for a veteran top of the rotation starter and Buehrle would be a perfect fit for them. Not only will he make 30+ starts and pitch 200+ innings he'll be a tremendous influence on their young pitchers. I think Buehrle would be a better bet for them than Gil Meche was.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:18 pm ]
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Buehrle will teach the Royals' pitchers many things about how to look like you've been clocked in the face with a pan.

Author:	OldSchoolScoreFan [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:18 pm ]
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I can't imagine Buerhle will go to KC. Unless they throw 60/4yrs at him, why go to a place where you have little chance at winning. He could stay here and do that and retire an icon.

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Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:22 am ]
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Sox. Or. Retirement. Unless I'm wrong. In which case this post and all the others never happened.

Author:	cantaloupe [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:29 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote: Cause he's said as much. He's got enough money for a hillbilly to live in Missourah. Mark Buerhle's standard of living is probably 50k/year. I'll burn my Ray Durham jersey if he goes to the Yankees or Red Sox. I gotta burn something.

Author:	cantaloupe [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:40 pm ]
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Per Chat with Doug Padilla today: Doug Padilla (1:32 PM) Kenny took some of the beat writers to dinner last night (I had the scallops). He tried to sound optimistic on Buehrle but ended up being more reflective on the lefty's tenure. Sounded somber at times.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:38 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote: Buehrle will teach the Royals' pitchers many things about how to look like you've been clocked in the face with a pan.

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:50 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote: Buehrle will teach the Royals' pitchers many things about how to look like you've been clocked in the face with a pan. And how to be considered an ACE by the fans even though you are 10 games over 500 in the last 6 years

Author:	Gloopan Kuratz [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:25 pm ]
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Yankee pinstripes.....from my guy

Author:	Phil McCracken [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:16 pm ]
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cantaloupe wrote: Per Chat with Doug Padilla today: Doug Padilla (1:32 PM) Kenny took some of the beat writers to dinner last night (I had the scallops). He tried to sound optimistic on Buehrle but ended up being more reflective on the lefty's tenure. Sounded somber at times. Maybe Kenny can take out Vincente Padilla next and give him a 5 year deal.

Author:	Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:37 pm ]
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Keyser Soze wrote: I don't see Buehrle signing with the Cardnals or Brewers. The Cards just extended Chris Carpenter (2yr/$21M), picked up Adam Wainwrights option ($9M) and have Kyle Lohse ($11.875M) and Jake Westbrook ($8.5M) signed for next year. They also have to resign Roidface. The Brewers have Greinke, Marcum, Gallardo and Wolf all under team control for next season and have some nice pitchers in the minors. I think they'll also make a run at Prince especially if they make it to the WS. I think Buehrle will resign with the Sox for around the same amount of money but fewer years. I'll say 2yrs with an option. ROTFLMAO!!!! NO HOMETOWN DISCOUNT FOR WELFARE QUEEN REINSOUCHE!!!!

Author:	cantaloupe [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:43 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote: Curious Hair wrote: Buehrle will teach the Royals' pitchers many things about how to look like you've been clocked in the face with a pan. And how to be considered an ACE by the fans even though you are 10 games over 500 in the last 6 years I hope the reference to pitcher wins is a joke. I also don't know who considers him an "ACE". #1 starter ≠ ACE.

Author:	Rod [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:53 pm ]
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cantaloupe wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Curious Hair wrote: Buehrle will teach the Royals' pitchers many things about how to look like you've been clocked in the face with a pan. And how to be considered an ACE by the fans even though you are 10 games over 500 in the last 6 years I hope the reference to pitcher wins is a joke. I also don't know who considers him an "ACE". #1 starter ≠ ACE. It's an absolute joke. In fact, there have been many great starting pitchers with losing records. Because wins are beyond their control. I just don't remember who they are. Can anyone help me out?

Author:	cantaloupe [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:10 pm ]
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Oh I see what you did there. You're right, every pitcher with a losing record is a loser. Losers are worthless and hold no value. You don't win World Series with losers on your team. Only Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Felix Hernandez, Clayton Kershaw can get you there. It's a simple pitcher hitter game.

Author:	Rod [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:53 pm ]
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cantaloupe wrote: Oh I see what you did there. What did I do there? cantaloupe wrote: You're right, every pitcher with a losing record is a loser. By definition. cantaloupe wrote: Losers are worthless and hold no value. You don't win World Series with losers on your team. Only Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Felix Hernandez, Clayton Kershaw can get you there. It's a simple pitcher hitter game. I never said you had to have any specific guy to win a World Series. Though I am fairly certain you can't reach a World Series with five starters with losing records. At least no team has done it yet. Anyway, I want you to show me a guy you consider to be good starting pitcher with, let's say, 200 or more career decisions and a losing record. That guy must be out there if what you say is true.

Author:	cantaloupe [ Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:05 pm ]
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My initial comment was to be taken as, "referencing wins for pitchers is not a true grade of their individual performance or value." Guess I should have just said that. I will next time because I get responses like yours. However, you found it fitting that I must point out a pitcher who is viewed as "good" with a "losing record" over 200 career decisions. Why not find a pitcher viewed as bad with a winning record? Carlos Zambrano has a record of 125-81 over 11 seasons. 60.7% John Lackey: 128-94; 57.7% In his first 11 years, Nolan Ryan only had a winning percentage of 51.7%, 167-158. What a fucking bum. Good pitchers win more than half their games. Point taken. You have enlightened my baseball knowledge.

Author:	Rod [ Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:34 pm ]
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cantaloupe wrote: My initial comment was to be taken as, "referencing wins for pitchers is not a true grade of their individual performance or value." Guess I should have just said that. I will next time because I get responses like yours. However, you found it fitting that I must point out a pitcher who is viewed as "good" with a "losing record" over 200 career decisions. Why not find a pitcher viewed as bad with a winning record? Carlos Zambrano has a record of 125-81 over 11 seasons. 60.7% John Lackey: 128-94; 57.7% In his first 11 years, Nolan Ryan only had a winning percentage of 51.7%, 167-158. What a fucking bum. Good pitchers win more than half their games. Point taken. You have enlightened my baseball knowledge. You really think Zambano and Lackey have been less than good pitchers? People often confuse being difficult to hit with being a good pitcher. Ryan was the most difficult pitcher to hit. Ever. What he wasn't was a particularly good pitcher. That isn't to say he wasn't good. Just that he was nowhere near as good as his reputation suggests. Who is the best pitcher ever with a losing record (200+ decisions)?