Evert time this guy opens his mouth he removes all doubt that he is a fool.
In one month he has gone from REBUILDING by trading Santos and watching Buerhle walk to WIN MODE!!!
Guillen was doing us a favor by trying to force this goof Williams out.

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WOO LIFE!!!!

Not in WIN MODE, just a special kind of rebuilding, because it's not the normal kind of rebuilding, it's a special kind of rebuilding that only Kenny has the mental aptitude to be able to comprehend.

His brilliance escapes all.

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Kenny is living in his own little sad reality. "WIN MODE"? This team as it stands isn't winning anything but 70 or so games next year, I know that, BF knows that and you bet your ass AgSxFnBd knows that....and I'm pretty sure the fan base knows it too.

Who the fuck is Kenny going to pick up? What big splash is he going to make? I can just see the big Tim Wakefield signing lighting up the town in the coming weeks.

How about Kenny and Crew being in "Honesty Mode" for once in their lives.

Except that's just wrong. Could they win around seventy games? Sure. But they were considered the heavy favorite to win the division last year with almost the same damn team.

One thing I've learned from betting horses is that an animal is never as bad as he looks losing and never as good as he looks winning. The same can certainly be said for a baseball club. If Dunn and Rios just have normal bad years, this team will be better than last season.

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Except that's just your opinion. The division wasn't all that great last year and the White Sox , managed to win 79 games. It is true that Dunn/Rios had awful years as well but CQ is gone, Marky B is gone, Santos is gone and I'm sure there will be more movement in the near future. If the division gets marginally better next year the White Sox will be in the 70-80 game win zone which won't be enough to get to the post-season.

Yeah, if Dunn/Rios do well I still see them around 80 games.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that is will be another mediocre to kinda bad season.

It's all just opinion. I have no more idea how many games they will win next year than you do. But my opinion is common sense analysis. With Quentin moving, it obviously changes things. But when you made your post that wasn't the case. Did you think they would win 70 games going into last year? If you did, I'll say you're a great baseball man. But if you thought they would contend for the division, well, I don't think replacing Buehrle with Sale and losing Santos was going to make the difference between predicting a division winner and a team doing well to win 70 games. I consider it reasonable to believe Rios and Dunn will be better than they were last year. How much, I don't know. I also think it reasonable to believe Konerko will be worse.

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I had them in the 85+ wins for last year and contending for the division, not because they were going to win 100 games but because I thought they improved enough to win in a ho-hum division. Dunn/Rios had historically bad seasons and that pretty much shot any chance of contending into pieces, so did the Thornton closer experiment and the struggles of Sale, Juan Pierre etc. I think the Sox will be mediocre again even if Dunn and Rios improve, still plenty of question marks and CQ is gone now as well putting more focus on the big 3. 70-80 wins will be my target for them next year.

I'm predicting mediocrity which, going by recent history, isn't really going out on a limb.

It was the opinion of a TON of so called baseball experts. The Sox were at the very least expected to contend for the AL Central.

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I wouldn't argue with that, but I'd say 70 wins is less than mediocre. With Quentin gone, it's a radically different and far more unknown team. I'm sure there may be more changes coming. They could get to a point where I'd agree with 70 wins. I wouldn't say they're there yet. The division didn't get better. I don't think Verlander can pitch the way he did last year, coming off a season in which he pitched 270 innings and looked a little ragged at the end.

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73 wins wouldn't surprise me with the Sox. Neither would 90. I'm not sure what to make of this team right now. One thing is for sure, they have the starting pitching to contend. If Rios can put up even mediocre stats and Dunn can come close to doing what he's done in the past, the Sox could surprise a lot of people.

Of course between the bullpen, 3rd base, leadoff man, defense, Beckham, etc there are a lot of question marks too. At this point I don't know what to make of this team. And I'm not so sure the Keysers and Orrs and Peeps or any of the other Sox fans on here really know either.

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Yeah, that's a shit load of unknowns in pretty important positions which is why I'm predicting it the way I am.

White Sox Baseball 2012: Staring Into the Abyss.

Uhmmm the team said they "ALL IN", yeah I think that means you should compete at the very least?

Or maybe the other teams were going to be scored of Kenny and just FOLD, so Kenny could Bluff them out.

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90 wins would surprise the fuck out of me

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Frank not trying to ridicule you, but I think you pretty much do this every year? Say they could win anywhere from 70 to 90?

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90 wins would surprise the hell out of me. Burles gone, CQ gone... Dunn won't be anything like his "old self" again. Rios is just a guy. Beckham will never ever be better than a below average hitter. Sox won't surprise anyone, this team will blow.

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Really, a great time to secure the services of a Mike North, to exhort/throw coaching & players under the bus, and otherwise add obfuscation to the issue. A great signing.

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Middle Aged Crazy, like Uncle Terry

When coaches/GM's/Players place such an emphasis on picking their words, I feel this is a futile effort and the effort alone shows they allow the media to run their team. Dick Jauron was a guy who could talk for 15 minutes and say nothing, but was very specific in his words. Kenny does the same thing. Their intelligence is wasted on fighting the media, when they should be embracing the media and just telling the truth. It's easier and more fun.

The Truth about the 2012 White Sox is just that "We have some players who we expect more from. we have paid them accordingly and if they perform this team will contend, regardless of any other signings or trades at this point, but as always we will continue to look at the future as every team does." Feel free to us it Kenny!

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Ninety wins would surprise me too, but I don't agree with a bunch of things in your post. Who knows if Beckham will hit better? Sandberg's first two seasons weren't too good either. And I don't know why you would be so sure that Dunn couldn't rebound from one awful season. (I didn't like the type of hitter Dunn was when he was "good".)

My guess is offense continues to decline across baseball and the Sox have enough pitching to be better than most people think. I also expect the Cubs to be better than most "experts" believe they will.

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Both teams will blow in 2012 but at least the Cubs have taken action and axed their GM and are rebuilding. IMO "Kenny" should have been gone after last season and with him still being in charge, the Sox are going nowhere fast. Jerry needs to wake the fuck up and rebuild that front office and hire someone who will start building a farm system and scouting dept that will allow the franchise to return to respectability. Sadly, it seems Jerry's blind loyalty to "Kenny" will insure the franchise remains one of the worst bottom up or top down organizations in all of MLB.

"Sandbergs first 2 season!!!!!!!" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL......LOLOLOLOLOL

Isn't this Beckhams 4th year?

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He's had about two and a half seasons. Sandberg's breakout was in his third full year. Up until then he looked less than common. You know that. Nobody expected him to do what he did in '84. I wouldn't expect Beckham to do that either. But it's also kind of silly to say he's destined to be a below average hitter, especially when he's already shown he can be a better than average hitter for relatively long stretches.

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430 AB's is not a half a season...and that was his best season.

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There's no question he's gone backward. But he has shown he can hit at the big league level. I would think this is his last shot to show some progress in a White Sox uniform.

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How can you seriously compare Beckham's first three years to Sandbergs? That's really crazy.

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In his first two full seasons Sandberg posted OPS+ of 90 and then an 82. The 90 is okay, but the 82 was a definite step backward. It sure wasn't a harbinger of what was to come the following season in 1984.

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I'm not going to look up the statistics but I'm nearly positive that Sandberg got better each of his first three years. I mean come on JORR, they're not even close to the same type of player. Sandberg got better each year. Beckham gets worse each year. I won't deny that I like his defense but he just doesn't hit the fucking ball man.

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Jason Frasor apparently wasn't part of the equation.

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Don't tell Keysor that, it was all part of the PLAN, sign him then trade him for arms, I no doubt know that the Sox really liked.

They liked them so much, could find a place to draft them in Rounds 1-16 before the Jays did.

The angle that could be taken is that the Scout the Sox brought over from the Blue Jays should have some insight into the Jays system and they are sure are tied into dealing with the Jays.

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