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| Author: | good dolphin [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Game, Set and Match |
...might as well sell off all veteran talent as this team isn't going to compete for the division for quite some time. I would ask Paulie if he wants to be moved out of respect for the years he has given the team. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
....there is veteran talent here outside of Paulie? |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
Floyd This is really JR biggest nightmare, a team in his division willing to maintain a big payroll. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
Cabrera/Fielder the new Manny/Ortiz Still, it never goes like you think. Verlander gets hurt and its up for grabs |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
rogers park bryan wrote: Still, it never goes like you think. Exactly. The Eagles were supposed to be the NFL's dream team. 10-6 would have won that division. I'm not saying the Sox are good, but you never know. They have a lot of question marks but they also have enough pitching to contend, provided Rios and Dunn don't pay like assholes for 145 games again. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
Frank Coztansa wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Still, it never goes like you think. Exactly. The Eagles were supposed to be the NFL's dream team. 10-6 would have won that division. I'm not saying the Sox are good, but you never know. They have a lot of question marks but they also have enough pitching to contend, provided Rios and Dunn don't pay like assholes for 145 games again. With that said im gonna enjoy watching you hold on to this hope until July. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
I'm not a Cubs fan, I won't hold on to any hope. We'll know by Memorial Day if this team is anything better than a 75-80win club. I'll never rule anything out because sure its possible a team can go on a big run but I won't hold out hope for that. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
FrankCoztansa wrote: I won't hold on to any hope. Yes you will, have, and will continue to You go on to do it in this post... FrankCoztansa wrote: I'll never rule anything out because sure its possible a team can go on a big run Ending something with, but im not holding out hope, doesnt change the fact that the first statement indicated hope. Gonna be a fun year |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
The real pisser is that the Marlins will probably play well, the Sox will suck and Cowley will find the nexus to be Ozzie Guillen. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
NL East > AL Central even with Prince Fielder |
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| Author: | Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
Rogers talking about Red Sox interest in Floyd, Ramirez or Beckham. The HIRING of INEXPERIENCED Robin Ventura as Manager should be some kind of HINT that WIN NOW/ALL IN is over. When our very own Keyser Soze isn't here posting upbeat Fanboy idiocy, the club may be in transition!!!!!! Hopefully Williams kicks himself upstairs after the season and Reinsdouche hires PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL MEN and butts the hell out. |
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| Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
good dolphin wrote: ...might as well sell off all veteran talent as this team isn't going to compete for the division for quite some time. I would ask Paulie if he wants to be moved out of respect for the years he has given the team. Strange as it might seem having both Cabrera and now Fielder, Tigers still don't have the DH position on lock-down. Paulie could be suitable for a full-time DH role in that lineup. Fielder and Cabrera--probably in part due to MVP aspirations--both want to play the field as much as possible. Cabrera's already been told and confirmed he's moving back to 3B to make room for Fielder at 1B. Paulie has a pretty good contract for a team looking to contend over the next 2 season. I think Verlander has 2 or 3 left on his deal, Cabrera maybe 3 or 4? Problem arises if they get V-Mart back next season and he's done catching. Not sure what Detroit has the White Sox might want, and I doubt Detroit gives up much, but in terms of moving Paulie's payroll and getting Dunn back in the field full-time.... |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
rogers park bryan wrote: FrankCoztansa wrote: I won't hold on to any hope. Yes you will, have, and will continue to You go on to do it in this post... FrankCoztansa wrote: I'll never rule anything out because sure its possible a team can go on a big run Ending something with, but im not holding out hope, doesnt change the fact that the first statement indicated hope. Gonna be a fun year Frank's mirror has been broken for years. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
NearWessSideHussra wrote: [ Problem arises if they get V-Mart back next season and he's done catching..... I think they figure they will deal with that next year. He will be coming back from an ACL tear. I don't see him catching full time, especially if Avila puts up back to back good seasons. |
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| Author: | Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
NearWessSideHussra wrote: good dolphin wrote: ...might as well sell off all veteran talent as this team isn't going to compete for the division for quite some time. I would ask Paulie if he wants to be moved out of respect for the years he has given the team. Strange as it might seem having both Cabrera and now Fielder, Tigers still don't have the DH position on lock-down. Paulie could be suitable for a full-time DH role in that lineup. Fielder and Cabrera--probably in part due to MVP aspirations--both want to play the field as much as possible. Cabrera's already been told and confirmed he's moving back to 3B to make room for Fielder at 1B. Paulie has a pretty good contract for a team looking to contend over the next 2 season. I think Verlander has 2 or 3 left on his deal, Cabrera maybe 3 or 4? Problem arises if they get V-Mart back next season and he's done catching. Not sure what Detroit has the White Sox might want, and I doubt Detroit gives up much, but in terms of moving Paulie's payroll and getting Dunn back in the field full-time.... Reinsdorf runs a goofy organization, but trading Konerko...the ONLY PLAYER worth seeing to the Detroit Tigers for anything is a stretch. |
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| Author: | Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
STRETCH...STRETCH..... |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
good dolphin wrote: NearWessSideHussra wrote: [ Problem arises if they get V-Mart back next season and he's done catching..... I think they figure they will deal with that next year. He will be coming back from an ACL tear. I don't see him catching full time, especially if Avila puts up back to back good seasons. Yeah Avila was great last year One of the three fatties will be gone by opening day 2013 |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
New White Sox manager Robin Ventura was a guest on the Mac show yesterday and he said that Matt Thornton will get the first crack at closing with Sergio Santos dealt to Toronto. Based on what Joe Cowley wrote in the Sun-Times today, Thornton might not close a game for the 2012 Sox, considering that the Southsiders might be more interested in shedding salary than having someone who blew 4 saves before Ozzie gave him the hook in favor of Santos when the Sox made their annual visit to the Bronx vs. the Yankees. |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
Keep an eye on this Addison Reed kid in Spring Training.. I have a feeling he'll be closing before long. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
Apologist wrote: Keep an eye on this Addison Reed kid in Spring Training.. I have a feeling he'll be closing before long. Apologist, you might be right, but I'm not so sure Addison will have that many chances to save games... |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
SHARK wrote: I'm not so sure Addison will have that many chances to save games... Just like Carlos Quentin was gonna get traded for sure in the middle of last season? |
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| Author: | Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
good dolphin wrote: The real pisser is that the Marlins will probably play well, the Sox will suck and Cowley will find the nexus to be Ozzie Guillen. The real pisser is Kenny Williams will get another draft.....let me guess......1st pick....Honey Badger of L.S.U. We know how he loves those football players. Then he will draft pitcher after pitcher who are so damned promising he will trade for young pitchers. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
Bob, what are your thoughts on Don Cooper? |
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| Author: | thekubster [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
This Ox team will be lucky to win 60 games this year. Should be lotsa fun watching this 2nd rate franchise flounder for the next 10 years! |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
Name Change The Ox! |
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| Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
rogers park bryan wrote: Bob, what are your thoughts on Don Cooper? he'll end up in the hospital after doing whip-its all night in an attempt to get over Ozzie. |
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| Author: | Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
rogers park bryan wrote: Bob, what are your thoughts on Don Cooper? Maybe he should have stayed out of Cork and Kerry and watched video of Peavy pitching healthy in San Diego to notice how his whole delivery had changed once brilliant Kenny traded for him while on the Disabled List. That may have prevented Peavy's arm from falling off. Other than the soap opera infighting Cooper was a part of that Reinsdorf relishes, I think Cooper is fine as a pitching coach. I don't blame coaches for the failures of players....that is PURE CHICAGO. |
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| Author: | Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
NearWessSideHussra wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Bob, what are your thoughts on Don Cooper? he'll end up in the hospital after doing whip-its all night in an attempt to get over Ozzie. It was time for both Ozzie and Kenny to depart after the 2010 public skirmish they conducted all season. Ozzie forced Reinsdorf's hand last September. Ozzie sure as Hell is in a better place. Meanwhile we have Rah Rah Kenny Williams who is stuck between REBUILD and GO FOR IT. Williams has spent $600,000,000 on player payroll from 2006. The Sox have one whole Playoff win to show for it. Unlike some who wanted to PRETEND THEY CONTEND while they are under .500 in 2011, I was focused on a catcher who can't throw out a base stealer, a terrible outfield defensively, a team of absolute hackers at the plate who specialized in leaving runners stranded and OAF Dunn, Rios and Beckham combining for 10 strikeouts per game. Has Williams forgotten the concept of SPEED while he worries about WIND CURRENTS at The Cell and loads a lineup full of Home Run or Nothing Kelly Park Bobcats? Williams puts the roster together....they don't have SIGN UP DAY at Horner Park. |
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| Author: | BD [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
SHARK wrote: Apologist wrote: Keep an eye on this Addison Reed kid in Spring Training.. I have a feeling he'll be closing before long. Apologist, you might be right, but I'm not so sure Addison will have that many chances to save games... Even on a 75 win team, the closer will get 30 saves if he's any good. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Game, Set and Match |
BD wrote: SHARK wrote: Apologist wrote: Keep an eye on this Addison Reed kid in Spring Training.. I have a feeling he'll be closing before long. Apologist, you might be right, but I'm not so sure Addison will have that many chances to save games... Even on a 75 win team, the closer will get 30 saves if he's any good. I don't know if the new White Sox closer will even have 30 saves, or if the Sox will have 75 wins for that matter. |
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