I think he needs a samwich if he is going to pitch more!
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| Author: | RFDC [ Fri May 04, 2012 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Huh? How the heck does that work? |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri May 04, 2012 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Did this just happen? |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Fri May 04, 2012 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Yeah reported on the Score and was from Mark Gonzales twitter |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Fri May 04, 2012 4:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Since they know he will stink at his new job, there's already an excuse ready and built-in to help explain away said stinkiness. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri May 04, 2012 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
That's really stupid. I mean Quade stupid. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Fri May 04, 2012 5:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Yeah I dont get it at all. If he is hurt you put him on the DL and let him rest. Now what do you do when he is healthy? Does he go back to the rotation? |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Fri May 04, 2012 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
What the hell does Addison Reed have to do? Strike out 4 guys in an inning? |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri May 04, 2012 8:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Apologist wrote: What the hell does Addison Reed have to do? Strike out 4 guys in an inning? Shhhh...that would mean you NAME his closer...and then everyone else knows he is your closer and they can plan around it, but if you keep it a secret, then you can surprise everyone. Announced late Friday afternoon? bummer...missed the Coop v Mully/Hanley hour on this one... Whoa whoa whoa |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri May 04, 2012 9:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
This move makes no fucking sense. If Sale really has a sore elbow then shut him down and build him back up. Pitching balls out and sporadically in the bullpen will not help heal his elbow. What's the life expectancy of a closer? A year? A year and half? He has no long term anymore. They keep him in the bullpen and he's done in 2 years if not sooner. You just got a shut down closer for a .500 team. Good call guys. Assholes. |
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| Author: | cpguy [ Fri May 04, 2012 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
"Kenny" |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Fri May 04, 2012 10:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Has there ever been example of someone doing this before? |
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| Author: | Rod [ Sat May 05, 2012 7:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
RFDC wrote: Has there ever been example of someone doing this before? Well, I don't think teams have been quite as conscious of big jumps in innings pitched in the past. I was kind of surprised to hear bernstein whining about this move since I'm damn near certain he would have excoriated the Sox had Sale pitched 200 innings this season, parroting Fangraphs regarding what has occurred to pitchers after such a big jump. It's a way to limit his innings this season. But he's going to have to progress to pitching more at some point if he's going to be a starter. And if he isn't starting, the Sox are fucking morons. It's an absolute waste of a huge talent and a giant mistake if they are making him a closer going forward for his career. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sat May 05, 2012 8:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
I think he needs a samwich if he is going to pitch more!
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| Author: | 312player [ Sat May 05, 2012 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
knew he would not last as a starter..was dumb to ever put him in the rotation |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Sat May 05, 2012 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Jesus, that experiment didn't last long. Stupid. Why did you do it in the first place? |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Sat May 05, 2012 4:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Hatchetman wrote: Jesus, that experiment didn't last long. Stupid. Why did you do it in the first place? When are you going to change your avatar to match your username? 
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sat May 05, 2012 8:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: It's a way to limit his innings this season. But he's going to have to progress to pitching more at some point if he's going to be a starter. And if he isn't starting, the Sox are fucking morons. It's an absolute waste of a huge talent and a giant mistake if they are making him a closer going forward for his career. I understand they want to limit his innings and rightfully so. But why do this now? Why start him in the rotation and then switch him? If his elbow is hurting then put him on the DL for awhile and let him rest, won't that help limit his innings as well? |
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| Author: | lipidquadcab [ Sun May 06, 2012 12:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
RFDC wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: It's a way to limit his innings this season. But he's going to have to progress to pitching more at some point if he's going to be a starter. And if he isn't starting, the Sox are fucking morons. It's an absolute waste of a huge talent and a giant mistake if they are making him a closer going forward for his career. I understand they want to limit his innings and rightfully so. But why do this now? Why start him in the rotation and then switch him? If his elbow is hurting then put him on the DL for awhile and let him rest, won't that help limit his innings as well? Sense: You're making too much of it. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sun May 06, 2012 7:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Hatchetman wrote: Jesus, that experiment didn't last long. Stupid. Why did you do it in the first place? Coop will explain it to everyone next Friday and as with everything, it's no big deal and nobody else knows anything. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Sun May 06, 2012 8:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
RFDC wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: It's a way to limit his innings this season. But he's going to have to progress to pitching more at some point if he's going to be a starter. And if he isn't starting, the Sox are fucking morons. It's an absolute waste of a huge talent and a giant mistake if they are making him a closer going forward for his career. I understand they want to limit his innings and rightfully so. But why do this now? Why start him in the rotation and then switch him? If his elbow is hurting then put him on the DL for awhile and let him rest, won't that help limit his innings as well? I agree. I'm not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure there is no arm injury that makes it better to pitch an inning three days in a row than six innings once a week. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Wed May 09, 2012 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Chris Sale might be looking at a DL stint after you read this: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/05/09/ ... -have-mri/ |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Wed May 09, 2012 1:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
SHARK wrote: Chris Sale might be looking at a DL stint after you read this: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/05/09/ ... -have-mri/ So if I don't read it he won't go on the DL? |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Wed May 09, 2012 1:20 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: SHARK wrote: Chris Sale might be looking at a DL stint after you read this: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/05/09/ ... -have-mri/ So if I don't read it he won't go on the DL? Too late, I read it. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed May 09, 2012 1:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Either he should go to the DL or he should start on Saturday. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed May 09, 2012 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Its the Gold chain. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Wed May 09, 2012 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Either he should go to the DL or he should start on Saturday. If there's something wrong with Chris Sale, DL him! |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
So now Sale is back in the rotation. Fuck you Coop. Told you JORR. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Terry's Peeps wrote: So now Sale is back in the rotation. Fuck you Coop. Told you JORR. I don't think there's any way in the world Cooper was going to make a unilateral decision like that. Reading between the lines, I gather that Kenny is the only guy in the organization who thinks Sale can succeed as a starter besides Sale himself. I suspect Cooper was trying his best to steer the kid to the pen and keep him there. Cooper isn't going to come out and say that. Cowley's article seems to support that idea. Obviously Kenny overruled that. As a fan, I'm fine with that. If he breaks down, he breaks down. But the upside of having him starting is so much greater. But the truth is Cooper knows a lot more about pitching than Kenny and Kenny strikes me as the kind of guy who would say, "Fuck Ozzie. I''ll show everyone this guy can be a successful starter." |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: So now Sale is back in the rotation. Fuck you Coop. Told you JORR. I don't think there's any way in the world Cooper was going to make a unilateral decision like that. To paraphrase the tough guy himself, "Weren't you listening?" Whoever first made the 'Alexander Haig' comparison should be given a laurel and hearty handshake. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sale has a sore elbow and is now the closer |
It strikes me as Kenny being the only one with a brain in the organ-I-zation. I reiterate my invitation for Coop to forcefully violate himself. |
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