Bad
Alex Rios = 3 more years about about 12 million.
Not Bad, Not Great
Jake Peavy = 1 more year at about 17 million.
Good
Adam Dunn = 3 more years at about about 15 million.

Obviously, these could move up or down but 2 of 3 here are actually looking like decent moves. This is a big upgrade from last year when all 3 would be in the Bad category.

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The difference between being an idiot and a genius is a thin line. If Rios decided he wanted to be a real MLB player Kenny would be shitting rainbows right now.

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Peavy has an option for next year. The Sox likely are not going to pick that up, and will buy him out for $2mil. He still might end up staying with the Sox, but not for $17mil a year.

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I guess we should add in these too.

Good
Konerko = $12 million this year, $13.5 million next year.

Bad
Alexi!!! = $5M then $7M then $9.5M then $10M
Last two years could be rough here.

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For clarity, 2012 is the first year mentioned of all of these deals.

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Danks needs to be in consideration as well.

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Danks = $2M then $14.25M then $14.25M then $14.25M then $14.25M

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It looked like he was going to be a stud and now he just seems to be in a holding pattern.

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14 million a year is a lot to give someone who seems pretty average

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yeah Danks is rough

I could see Dunn having issues in the last two years too.


Nothing crippling though

I agree with you but I find it hard to project that far into the future.

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Obviously anything can happen but at this point last year looks like a fluke. My guess is he is good for at least one of those years. He also may be playing for one last contract.

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Average Value
Gavin Floyd - 7M then 9.5M Option

For an innings eater, middle of the rotation guy - this is a fair contract - you could probably find a guy cheaper but as a younger guy who can get better (hopefully), it's an investment

If Alexi is getting his average numbers, the contract is OK. The last two years are big but it was a backloaded deal which is an unaccounted for benefit.

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Danks may be fine, too early to tell. But $14M for a starting pitcher is becoming the norm for anything above average.

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Overall the last 2 years, Danks has been nowhere near "above average"

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I hear you, but what about looking forward? It is really tough with pitchers, and my point was $14M isn't that much if he develops as many expect. We've seen top notch pitchers get paid a lot of money and suck, and it's always the risk you run with signing them to large deals.

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Which is why Jerry normally dont like to sign pitchers long term

This is from Baseball Prospectus/ Cott's Contracts

Jake peavy 3 years/$52M (2010-12), plus 2013 club option 10:$15M, 11:$16M, 12:$17M, 13:$22M club option ($4M buyout)

Alex Rios 7 years/$69.835M (2008-14), plus 2015 club option 08:$0.735M, 09:$5.9M, 10:$9.7M, 11:$12M, 12:$12M, 13:$12.5M, 14:$12.5M, 15:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout)

Adam Dunn 4 years/$56M (2011-14) 11:$12M, 12:$14M, 13:$15M, 14:$15M

Gavin Floyd 4 years/$15.5M (2009-12), plus 2013 club option 09:$0.75M, 10:$2.75M, 11:$5M, 12:$7M, 13:$9.5M club option

Matt Thornton 2 years/$12M (2012-13), plus 2014 club option 12:$5.5M, 13:$5.5M, 14:$6M club option ($1M buyout)

John Danks 5 years/$65M (2012-16) $7.5M signing bonus (paid between 6/12 and 10/12) 12:$0.5M, 13:$14.25M, 14:$14.25M, 15:$14.25M, 16:$14.25M full no-trade clause for 2012 may block trades to six clubs annually for 2013-16

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Danks is not good right now. He'll find a groove where he dominates sometime during the course of this contract. Probably even this year. I'm not sure he'll ever be consistent though. But a solid lefty that will give you about 200 innings/season and a .500 record over the course of that contract isn't a disaster.

My biggest problem with the Danks signing is that he could have commanded a couple good young guys and Buehrle could have been signed for similar money. Danks will never be the pitcher Buehrle is and Buehrle was a homegrown "face of the franchise" type guy who you would have had a chance to keep in Chicago for his entire career with that one big contract.

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