You heard me. And yes we have enough to offer. Give the Yankees Crede, Vasquez and a pitching prospect. Make them eat 6 million per year of the remaing portion of his contract. I think he's got 4 years left. And when you consider the Rangers are eating some of it that would mean we would have to pay A-Rod roughly 14 or 15 million per year for 4 more years. Crede gonna get about 12 million when he's deal is up and there's no guarentee we can sign him. The Yankees want to get rid of him. He can't stay in New York after 3 straight disasterous post seasons

--Yes, I know he's choked in the post season the last two years but I think the New York pressure has got to him. He actually did well in the post season with the Mariners.

--Chicago would fit him perfect because you don't have to live up to those unbeleivable expectations. We don't have the great tradition the Yanks have. A Rod would own this town.

--This would guarentee you won't lose those season ticket holders Jerry just got. He'd mean a consistant gate for the Sox. Last year was due to the wake of the championship. He brings in the casual fans and even the non baseball fans.

--He's 31. He'll be in his prime for the remainder of the contract. He could hit 50+ per year with us. Left field at Yankee statium is a bitch to hit homers.

--He'd be motivated as hell if he came here.

--You could move him to short and Josh Fields could play third. Or I'm not totally against leaving him at third and keeping Uribe.

--Some of you won't like this but I'll guarentee you that Kenny Williams will make a call to the Yankees this off season. I hope he pulls it off.

wow. between DA BEARS koolaid and now this, chicago must be dry by now

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Chicago is the perfect city for him. Passionate fans and a soft media equals a good fit. I love Crede, but it is A-Rod we're talking about.

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The Yankees already tried the Javier Vazquez experiment. It didn't go too well. Also, I have no idea why you think A-Rod is going to bring non-baseball fans to a baseball game. Is he going to drop his pants and bang all of the 18-25 single girls? Handing out money to people? What?

With Sweet Lou on his way to NYC, odds of A-Rod going anywhere are slim.

Besides, the Yankees could easily just outbid other teams for someone like Zito or Schmidt.

His agent is Scott Boras and the White Sox are afraid of Boras.

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I wouldn't mind seeing him on the northside. Prior needs a change of scenery and the Yanks need pitching. Throw in Jones and maybe another pitcher. The Cub can afford him.

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No thanks...we'd have to get rid of half our team just to afford his contract.

The Cub has plenty of cash, especially if Aranus leaves. We wouldn't have to pay all of his contract anyway.

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Nas - I think even that would be a problem. We have 99 million tied into only 12 players currently, according to that Tribune article from about 3 weeks ago.

I know we're going to move one starter to free up some cash, but KW's top priority at this point seems to be improving the bullpen.

Where would you want ARod to play ? SS ? 3B ?

I agree with Beardown, I like the thought of putting A-Rod at SS but do not believe the Sox should give up more than Crede to get him.

I heard on ESPN Radio this AM that the Yankee apparently owe A-Rod $75m over the next 5 years ($15m per year). Besides having a bad back, isn't Crede arbitration eligible the next 1-2 years? Given that Crede made $2.7 this year, he is going to be making way more than that in 2007 and on (in spite of his back issues, which scare me). I would hope Ken Williams would at least explore trading Crede for A-Rod STRAIGHT UP with some cash coming back in return to offset A-Rod's salary. If the Yankee are desperate to get rid of him, I would think the Yankee would believe that getting Crede in return for A-Rod would be a great deal for them under these circumstances.

Sorry, Peter, but that’s just insane. A-Rod is worth waaaaay more than Crede. Why would they give us Alex and cash for Joe? That’s like getting Peyton Manning and a 1st round pick in exchange for Rex. Everybody loves their guy, but you can’t assume the rest of the nation bleeds your home town colors the same way.

Where is Tall Midget when I need him? Playing Negative Nancy is not my thing, but this is just nuts.

I would give up Uribe and Hermanson, but only if the Yankees eat half of A-Rod’s salary. I’ll hang up and wait for my answer.

Not soft, but my White Sox passion is currently in hibernation. More in the mood for Bears/Bulls debates right about now.

But crazy is crazy, no matter what the calendar says.

What the Yankees will want and what the Sox might offer are two different things. I could see the Yankess wanting Crede and Garcia in exchange for ARod. They need a starter and a 3B to replace ARod in this scenario. I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. I don't anticipate a big drop off between McCarthy and Freddy.

I would think the Yankess would demand Brian Anderson in exchange for A-Rod, but we could probably get away with giving up less, like Ron Karkovice's acne medication or a scholarship to the Harold Baines School of Public Speaking. If so, I'd probably make the deal.

Sounds to me like everyone is dissing the value of Joe Crede while overvaluing A-Rod at this time. Joe Crede is one of the top overall 3B in all of baseball: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?position=3b&league=mlb

If A-Rod was in fact the best player in MLB right now, this would not be a topic for discussion. Fact is in NY his swing has looked terrible for quite some time, his glovework at 3B has been awful (which is odd considering he was a very good defensive SS before he came to NY) and he is thought of as a club house cancer. A-Rod is now damaged goods (obviously with tremendous upside). Given these circumstances, aren't a) the Yankee desperate to get him out of town before next season (and wouldn't the Yankee love to have Crede starting at 3B next year instead of A-Rod?) and b) the Sox dealing from a position of strength?

OK, so if Crede is as good as you say and A-Rod is as bad as you say, why would you want the White Sox to make this deal?

I like Crede too. In fact I precicted a break out year for him this past year. I'm just weighing in his signability and the fact that we can probrally get AROD for like 13-15 million per year x 4 more years with the Rangers and Yanks paying the rest of it. You'll probrally have to pay Crede a similar contract next year. Plus Crede's back is a problem down the road.

ARod would be great, but look at what you're gonna give up for him. Pitching killed the Sox this year, their lineup lost their share of games but pitching is why the Sox are chilling watching the playoffs on TV. They need to concentrate on that before even thinking about giving away decent pitching (bad years, proven performance, i.e. Buherle) to improve an already solid line-up.

I'll bite TM...Crede has two years of arbitration left. If he does not sign a 3 year contract this offseason, there is no way in hell Boras will let him skip free agency. If he goes to free agency there is not way in hell the Sox sign him. Given these circumstances, he is at the height of his value from the Sox perspective. If that translates into ARod, then it is a no brainer. From the Yankees perspective, Boras usual assholery is not a problem as they will sign him if they want him. The Yankees are getting a relatively young, currently inexpensive, top 3B that they will be able to keep forever if they choose.

Then you throw in the factors outside of the trade...the Sox have a top prospect who plays 1B and will be 25 next year. He needs to be on the big league club now.

Uribe had many problems both in the field and at bat last year. The Sox would like something a little different next year and a SS with Uribe's power should be able to get you a middle reliever in a trade.

Now I am not sure if Crede is enough. However, I would jump at the chance of Crede + Freddy for ARod + money. The net would be a lowering of the payroll, without an inch of production from last year (in my opinion).

i dont care who's on the sox, as long as they are still playing baseball this time next year.

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My sentiments exactly GD, thank you. I would add that a) I am worried about Crede's back--he not only took games off down the stretch but I did not think his swing looked very good in Sept.--and b) Josh Fields is waiting in the wings.

I should also note that A-Rod's upside is high despite all the negatives I noted. I agree with the original post that if you just brought A-Rod in and told him to play SS, we might just see the "old" A-Rod.

I would love to see A-Rod in a Sox uni, but I fear many of you are severely underestimating the cost to acquire him. If it could be done for Crede & Garcia, by all means, do it. I have a feeling 1 of the other 30 teams could put together a more tempting package, however.

You guys said it. The temperature is perfect for this trade. ARod's value is never gonna be lower and Crede's might not ever be higher. Maybe it was a career year for Joe. I just don't know if other teams are willing to give the Yankees more. I'm sure ARod would have a list of teams he would aprove a trade too since he has a "no trade clause". I'm sure the Sox would be on his list. Plus I'm willing to bet that the Yanks don't want to deal him to the Red Sox. Or anybody in their division for that matter but especially not the Red Sox. They probrally don't want to trade him to the Mets either. They don't want him to come back to bite them in their own division or their own town.

But why would the Sox want to exchange what you describe as a top player for what you describe as a bad player? Obviously, they wouldn't. But it's also obvious that A-Rod is more highly regarded than you admit while Crede isn't valued as highly as you believe. If you think the Sox can get A-Rod for Crede, you're out of your mind.

Are we talking about the same A-Rod that made 24 errors this season??

Pitching and defense boys....pitching and defense!