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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
Regardless of whether the White Sox are winning or losing these days, a common complaint among callers to Chris Rongey's "Xfinity Feedback Zone/White Sox Radio Network Postgame" after games is RV's refusal to take DH/1B Adam Dunn out of the #3 spot of his lineup. This as Dunn is flirting with a .200 overall BA and is on track to breaking his own single-season strikeout record that he set a year ago. While fans continue to bitch and moan about Dunn, consider this, Sox fans. Before he left to become the Miami Marlins' manager, Ozzie moved Dunn out of the #3 spot many times last season, and guess what? It didn't work and Dunn was miserable no matter where he was penciled in, even when Dunn sat for a few games and wasn't even in the lineup. It's not just Dunn that has been awful lately. 1B Paul Konerko has only 2 RBI's in July, while 2B Gordon Beckham has struggled since being dropped from #2 to #9 and even 3B Kevin Youkilis has gone into an offensive funk, too. The White Sox offense in general has had a lot of trouble struggling to score 1 run, let alone 5 runs a game since the All-Star Break. The time has come for RV to shake up his lineup and go back to a combination that was most productive before the Youkilis' acquisition from the Red Sox. That lineup starts with CF Alejandro De Aza & putting Beckham, despite the subpar BA & on-base percentage, in the #2 spot. Here's what else I'd like to see RV do with his lineup: *Move Youkilis down to 6th where he was more of an RBI guy during his years in Boston *Your #7, #8 & #9 hitters should be C A.J. Pierzynski, LF Dayan Viciedo & SS Alexei Ramirez *Youkilis or 1B Paul Konerko Batting 3rd in Games Dunn Isn't In the Lineup (Not Many) *RF Alex Rios in the #4 Spot when Konerko Isn't in the Lineup *Beckham Leads Off when De Aza Isn't In the Lineup These are just a few suggestions worth considering before this White Sox season gets away. |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
This is all I got from this post
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
Northside_Dan wrote: This is all I got from this post Rob Van Dam...No. 
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
It sounds like the White (meaning light skinned) White Sox are struggling. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
RV to SHARK: Mind your goddamn business. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:00 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: RV to SHARK: Mind your goddamn business. I'm just trying to help. |
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| Author: | Telegram Sam [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
SHARK wrote: Kevin Youkilis has gone into an offensive funk, too. Hey, who hasn't once or twice, right? |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
Telegram Sam wrote: SHARK wrote: Kevin Youkilis has gone into an offensive funk, too. Hey, who hasn't once or twice, right? It's a team-wide problem. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:09 pm ] |
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Telegram Sam wrote: SHARK wrote: Kevin Youkilis has gone into an offensive funk, too. Hey, who hasn't once or twice, right? This ties in perfectly to Good Dolphin's bum story. Circle of life... |
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| Author: | spmack [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:09 pm ] |
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| Author: | Telegram Sam [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:10 pm ] |
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SHARK wrote: Telegram Sam wrote: SHARK wrote: Kevin Youkilis has gone into an offensive funk, too. Hey, who hasn't once or twice, right? It's a team-wide problem. Especially in Cleveland I'm guessing. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
Here would be my lineup, SHARK. What do you think? Ramirez SS AJ C Rios RF Vicideo LF Youkilis 3B Konerko 1B DeAza CF Dunn DH Beckham 2B |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:47 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Here would be my lineup, SHARK. What do you think? Ramirez SS AJ C Rios RF Vicideo LF Youkilis 3B Konerko 1B DeAza CF Dunn DH Beckham 2B No. I like this better. De Aza CF Beckham 2B Konerko 1B Rios RF Dunn DH Youkilis 3B Pierzynski C Viciedo LF Ramirez SS |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:48 pm ] |
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That looks like a lineup that Liriano could no hit. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:49 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: That looks like a lineup that Liriano could no hit. Well, he no-hit the White Sox, I think a year or two ago at the Cell. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:50 pm ] |
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I know, we went thru this in the other thread. Best game ever pitched at the Cell. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
SHARK wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Here would be my lineup, SHARK. What do you think? Ramirez SS AJ C Rios RF Vicideo LF Youkilis 3B Konerko 1B DeAza CF Dunn DH Beckham 2B No. I like this better. De Aza CF Beckham 2B Konerko 1B Rios RF Dunn DH Youkilis 3B Pierzynski C Viciedo LF Ramirez SS 
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
I'm trying to help...The White Sox fixed what's not broken. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:56 pm ] |
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SHARK wrote: I'm trying to help...The White Sox fixed what's not broken. Huh? |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:58 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: SHARK wrote: I'm trying to help...The White Sox fixed what's not broken. Huh? Read the start of this thread. You'll know what I meant. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
SHARK wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: SHARK wrote: I'm trying to help...The White Sox fixed what's not broken. Huh? Read the start of this thread. You'll know what I meant. I did. What did the White Sox fix that wasn't broken? |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
The lineup...It was productive when De Aza & Beckham were #1 & #2. It's no longer productive with Youkilis in there. That was the idea behind the thread! |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:05 pm ] |
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Youkilis has been the Sox most productive hitter since he got here!! |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:05 pm ] |
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SHARK wrote: The lineup...It was productive when De Aza & Beckham were #1 & #2. It's no longer productive with Youkilis in there. That was the idea behind the thread! Was it not productive with De Aza and Youklis at the top until it wasn't? |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:07 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: SHARK wrote: The lineup...It was productive when De Aza & Beckham were #1 & #2. It's no longer productive with Youkilis in there. That was the idea behind the thread! Was it not productive with De Aza and Youklis at the top until it wasn't? In the last 2 weeks, not so much. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:09 pm ] |
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So let's shuffle the lineup every time it struggles for more than a week. Good idea SHARK. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:13 pm ] |
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If it ain't fixing it, don't break it. |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:13 pm ] |
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I just don't like the logic that because a guy hits marginally less horribly in the 2 spot, as justification for him being in the 2 spot. You suck at hitting, you go in the 9 hole, or wherever the manager sees fit. Youkilis is fine near the top of the order, he will walk and work a count. Beckham has a good month or two a season, but he has enough of a track record now of being a below-average hitter, I think we can comfortably projet that he is what he is at this point. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
Apologist wrote: I just don't like the logic that because a guy hits marginally less horribly in the 2 spot, as justification for him being in the 2 spot. You suck at hitting, you go in the 9 hole, or wherever the manager sees fit. Youkilis is fine near the top of the order, he will walk and work a count. Beckham has a good month or two a season, but he has enough of a track record now of being a below-average hitter, I think we can comfortably project that he is what he is at this point. Defense is Gordon Beckham's calling card. Make no mistake about it. That being said, I heard Mac & Spiegs mention the name Robby Thompson, who used to play with the Giants some 20 years ago, in the same breath with Beckham last week. |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RV's Lineup: Fix It...NOW! |
I think Robby Thompson would hit one out of the yard every once in a while. And I don't recall him being anything more than an average fielder... so No. I don't think it's a very good comparison. |
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