Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
Will Kenny bite?
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Will Kenny bite? |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Urlacher's missing neck wrote: Will Kenny bite? CHOMP
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| Author: | A7X [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Someone will claim him before the Sox get a chance. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
A7X wrote: Someone will claim him before the Sox get a chance. But isn't there a slight fear that the Phils may actually just let someone eat his contract? |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Quote: 2013 34 Philadelphia Phillies $25,000,000 2014 35 Philadelphia Phillies $25,000,000 2015 36 Philadelphia Phillies $25,000,000 2016 37 Philadelphia Phillies *$27,500,000 $27.5M Vesting Option, $12.5M Buyout option becomes guaranteed with 200 IP in 2015 or 400 IP in 2014-15 That is one hell of a contract left on him. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Urlacher's missing neck wrote: A7X wrote: Someone will claim him before the Sox get a chance. But isn't there a slight fear that the Phils may actually just let someone eat his contract? Sure. He's owed a lot of paper. No way Mr. Reinsdorf lets Kenny take that on. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
immessedup17 wrote: Almost every player gets placed on waivers... I am aware. The phillies fire sale and his huge contract make this one interesting. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
immessedup17 wrote: Almost every player gets placed on waivers... This. It's my second favorite part of the first week of August. My favorite part is the general overt overreaction of multiple people (not accusing you, UMN) over who get's placed on waivers when the names leak. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
NO WAY they will bite on that. Just getting over the burn of Rios/Peavy and now Danks. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Hatchetman wrote: Just getting over the burn of Rios/Peavy Except those look like good to great moves now.
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Hatchetman wrote: Just getting over the burn of Rios/Peavy Except those look like good to great moves now.If you only count this season... |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Ya, I doubt KW will want to get riosed in this situation. A team like the Dodgers who didn't score their starter and seemingly have money to burn could bite. I realize nothing big and crazy usually happens with the waiver trades but this one intrigues me. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
sjboyd0137 wrote: immessedup17 wrote: Almost every player gets placed on waivers... This. It's my second favorite part of the first week of August. My favorite part is the general overt overreaction of multiple people (not accusing you, UMN) over who get's placed on waivers when the names leak. Just more typical Cubs fan trolling in the Sox section. 
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
rogers park bryan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Hatchetman wrote: Just getting over the burn of Rios/Peavy Except those look like good to great moves now.If you only count this season... |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
The nut job Philllie fans would burn that town down if they let Lee go for nothing. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Urlacher's missing neck wrote: Will Kenny bite? No.
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Hatchetman wrote: Just getting over the burn of Rios/Peavy Except those look like good to great moves now.If you only count this season... Possibly, althoughtI think his lows were too low to call it a good move Satisfactory. Adequate. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
rogers park bryan wrote: Possibly, althoughtI think his lows were too low to call it a good move It depends a lot on what happens this year. If Rios ends up being a driving force behind a team that makes the playoffs and does well I think it makes up for his poor production on teams that weren't going anywhere.
Satisfactory. Adequate. |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
He also has a lot of teams he's able to veto a trade to. Like 15 or something like that. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
I'm pretty sure he can't veto a waiver claim. Can we check on thaaaaaaaaaat. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Northside_Dan wrote: He also has a lot of teams he's able to veto a trade to. Like 15 or something like that. Does that come into play if the Phillies just let the claim go through? |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Keyser Soze wrote: I'm pretty sure he can't veto a waiver claim. Can we check on thaaaaaaaaaat. I don't think so. Just meant if he's claimed and a trade is discussed. Just adding to the extreme unlikelihood he's moved. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Northside_Dan wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I'm pretty sure he can't veto a waiver claim. Can we check on thaaaaaaaaaat. I don't think so. Just meant if he's claimed and a trade is discussed. Just adding to the extreme unlikelihood he's moved. I know. I really didn't know if it had an effect. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Possibly, althoughtI think his lows were too low to call it a good move It depends a lot on what happens this year. If Rios ends up being a driving force behind a team that makes the playoffs and does well I think it makes up for his poor production on teams that weren't going anywhere.Satisfactory. Adequate. Yeah, when he wins MVP of the World Series there will be no question |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Northside_Dan wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I'm pretty sure he can't veto a waiver claim. Can we check on thaaaaaaaaaat. I don't think so. Just meant if he's claimed and a trade is discussed. Just adding to the extreme unlikelihood he's moved. He can block a waiver claim. Huh. A player with a no-trade clause who is claimed on Major League waivers must be pulled back if the player’s no-trade clause allows him to block a deal to the claiming club. |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Keyser Soze wrote: Northside_Dan wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I'm pretty sure he can't veto a waiver claim. Can we check on thaaaaaaaaaat. I don't think so. Just meant if he's claimed and a trade is discussed. Just adding to the extreme unlikelihood he's moved. He can block a waiver claim. Huh. A player with a no-trade clause who is claimed on Major League waivers must be pulled back if the player’s no-trade clause allows him to block a deal to the claiming club. Well, I learned something today. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
rogers park bryan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Hatchetman wrote: Just getting over the burn of Rios/Peavy Except those look like good to great moves now.If you only count this season... Bad in the first 1/4 season the acquired him, good to excellent in 2010, horrible in 2011, excellent in 2012. The Rios contract has not been a burn. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Keyser Soze wrote: Northside_Dan wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I'm pretty sure he can't veto a waiver claim. Can we check on thaaaaaaaaaat. I don't think so. Just meant if he's claimed and a trade is discussed. Just adding to the extreme unlikelihood he's moved. He can block a waiver claim. Huh. A player with a no-trade clause who is claimed on Major League waivers must be pulled back if the player’s no-trade clause allows him to block a deal to the claiming club. Interesting. I figured this had to be the case or it would be a nice loophole to evade the NTC. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
Look at the cash outlay of Rios & Peavy over the years versus the payout. No way they paid off in terms of wins, playoff appearances, and cash into Jerry's account. Just when KW regains some trust, he's going to put his neck on the line again? I doubt it. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cliff Lee has been placed on waivers |
good dolphin wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Hatchetman wrote: Just getting over the burn of Rios/Peavy Except those look like good to great moves now.If you only count this season... Bad in the first 1/4 season the acquired him, good to excellent in 2010, horrible in 2011, excellent in 2012. The Rios contract has not been a burn. Complete failure in 2 seasons (40 games in a pennant race counts) where they were counting on him The money is not too bad. It looked worse when it was signed by the Jays, market caught up |
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