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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Saw a brief headline that Hawk went batshit on the umps again. How long before the guy gets forced retirement? |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
This is what brings people out to the park. The old Krumedgon act is very appealing. But then again didnt hear it, so maybe it wasnt that bad, as CLH has been known to over react? |
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| Author: | Ed_from_Lisle [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
I can't stand Hawk, but I was watching last night, and I think he and Stone did a great job of describing the events of an ump having a crappy night. His strike zone for the Sox was completely different than the one for the Mariners. It was ridiculous. Hawk had every reason to go off even more than he did, but he kept it pretty professional, and I give him kudos. Though I'm not a Sox fan, I watch because I have some players on my fantasy team and it was pissing me off. You could see AJ, who got thrown out, jawing with the ump while in his crouch behind the plate. The homeplate ump sucked last night. Plain and simple. He deserved all of the comments directed at him. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
I will watch the link, but it does seem like every game he has an issue. The one thing I do agree with is that he has perpetuated an edge v The sox from the umps and if I was Robin I would get pissed. The umps hear about this and you can't tell me the constant bitching by Hawk on the air doesnt effect the way an umpire calls a game. I know it shouldn't, but they are only human and you keep calling an ump bad at what he does, eventually there will be a call where they say "Fuck You Hawk" and go the other way on a call. |
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| Author: | Ed_from_Lisle [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
I have no doubt the umps think Hawk is a complete tool, but I don't think they give a rat's ass about what he's saying in the booth during the heat of the moment. No way. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
bigfan wrote: I will watch the link, but it does seem like every game he has an issue. The one thing I do agree with is that he has perpetuated an edge v The sox from the umps and if I was Robin I would get pissed. The umps hear about this and you can't tell me the constant bitching by Hawk on the air doesnt effect the way an umpire calls a game. I know it shouldn't, but they are only human and you keep calling an ump bad at what he does, eventually there will be a call where they say "Fuck You Hawk" and go the other way on a call. If that's really true, wouldn't it mean Hawk was right? |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
i can see the home plate umps giggling to themselves when they squeeze the plate on the Sox, knowing Hawk is having a coronary |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
I am not saying he is wrong or right, but if you cry about it every night and you bitch on the air every night about how bad every ump is, you dont think they all know it ? Does Hawk bitching change anything for the positive for the Sox? Never....It will only become a bad situation I would guess Hawk has had a problem with every ump out there. The best he says is 'Then call it that way for everyone"...thats his compliment. It's not Hawks job to call out the Umps...only bad shit is going to happen |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Bagels wrote: i can see the home plate umps giggling to themselves when they squeeze the plate on the Sox, knowing Hawk is having a coronary Correct. Nothing good comes from this for the Sox |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
what can be gained |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
bigfan wrote: I will watch the link, but it does seem like every game he has an issue. The one thing I do agree with is that he has perpetuated an edge v The sox from the umps and if I was Robin I would get pissed. The umps hear about this and you can't tell me the constant bitching by Hawk on the air doesnt effect the way an umpire calls a game. I know it shouldn't, but they are only human and you keep calling an ump bad at what he does, eventually there will be a call where they say "Fuck You Hawk" and go the other way on a call. When its getting national coverage from ESPN, I hardly think its over-reacting in this case. Others maybe, but not this. I think its more of a distraction in the clubhouse than it is for the umpires. Hawk goes nuts. Story goes national. Media bombards the team with questions about the umps. Can't be a postitive impact. Not sure about the umpires caring at all. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Something is seriously wrong with Hawk. He wasn't always like this. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Hawk is absolutely brutal.. I did not see last nights game but I dis see Wise get called safe at first when he bunted someone over to 3rd couple days ago..Wise was out and that crybaby bitch Hawk goes silent when a bad call goes for the Sox..and cries like a little bitch when it goes the other way..fire this turd already. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Haters gonna hate. |
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| Author: | RodeoVann [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:09 am ] |
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I like Hawk but this ump shit is going to get him fired and he will deserve it. |
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| Author: | kernelklink [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote: Saw a brief headline that Hawk went batshit on the umps again. How long before the guy gets forced retirement? Man i feel better you made this post, No one should actually listen to the broadcast and form their own opinion, that would be stupid. So what publication was it that printed "Hawk went batshit "? Hawk did not have a breakdown at all, Joyce and Ventura had the breakdown if ya want even say breakdown at all. ESPN is a joke, and you pussies think the sox get screwed because Hawk rags on the umps, that strike zone was horrible. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
bigfan wrote: This is what brings people out to the park. The old Krumedgon act is very appealing. But then again didnt hear it, so maybe it wasnt that bad, as CLH has been known to over react? So the TV announcer is what gets people to pay for an actual ticket to watch the game live? Hmmmmm, ditch the radio and TV announcers and attendance is up 500434%! Interesting. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Hawk has done and said far worse. He didn't raise his voice at all and was totally honest in how he described what happened. He was also true in this instance. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Hawk has done and said far worse. He didn't raise his voice at all and was totally honest in how he described what happened. He was also true in this instance. Don't be a homer all the time, Frank. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
The ump was bad last night. Hawk described it calmly. He was a lot calmer than AJ was as you could clearly hear him yelling "horseshit" and "That's fucking brutal, you're fucking brutal" at the ump. |
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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
http://deadspin.com/hawk-harrelson/ video here.. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
immessedup17 wrote: http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=8303626&city=chicago Probably a couple days off this time.  From the first paragraph in the link you posted.. A Major League Baseball official told ESPNChicago.com's Bruce Levine on Sunday no action was expected to be taken against Harrelson for his latest remarks. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
doug - evergreen park wrote: http://deadspin.com/hawk-harrelson/ That's a whole lot of nothing there.video here.. What is the logic that a player and the manager can be mad at an ump and say that he's doing a bad job but it's a big deal that an announcer does it? It's just Hawk's reputation that made this a story. An announcer is allowed to state when he thinks an ump is doing a bad job. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: doug - evergreen park wrote: http://deadspin.com/hawk-harrelson/ That's a whole lot of nothing there.video here.. What is the logic that a player and the manager can be mad at an ump and say that he's doing a bad job but it's a big deal that an announcer does it? It's just Hawk's reputation that made this a story. An announcer is allowed to state when he thinks an ump is doing a bad job. Jim Leyland wishes they would do it more often. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
After watching the video it's even more laughable to suggest this was either a breakdown or that he would possibly get suspended. This wouldn't even qualify in a top 25 greatest Hawk rants list. Like Frank said, he never raised his voice and in a pretty rational tone said that the umpire was doing terrible. I'm pretty sure that an announcer is allowed to say he thinks the umpire is doing a terrible job. |
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| Author: | schmitty1121 [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Bud has no balls. He is Jerry's buddy, so he won't do shit to Hawk. If I was him, I would force Jerry's hand and say he's got to go. He really is an embarassment to the Sox and MLB. With having the MLB ticket, I watch lots of games, and Hawk is about the only one who bitches non stop about umpiring. It's ok for maybe a minute or 2, but you can't do it the rest of the game non stop. |
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| Author: | enigma [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
I didn't catch the first inning when the Sox supposedly got screwed (and maybe they did) but after Ventura and AJ got kicked out I thought I heard Hawk mentioned how they would get back at umpires who might have been squeeing them, have the catcher miss a pitch and hit the ump. Maybe I heard this wrong, but this too me is a lot more troubling than the usual Hawk ranting about umps. Imagine if that actually happened where a Sox catcher let a pitch hit an ump, or if a basketball player threw a ball at ref, or a hockey player wristing a shot toward a ref....oops, it just go away from me 
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Hawk infects some White Sox fans with the Umpires are against us thing. The calls even out over 162 games and the White Sox specifically got the benefit of some quetionable calls in the 2005 post season as I recall. It really is silly that certain fans know Umpires and their tendencies and past transgressions. That comes from the announcer for the most part. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
I'm glad there's an announcer that holds umpires accountable for their inadequacies. Viva la Hawk. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawk With Another Breakdown |
Terry's Peeps wrote: I'm glad there's an announcer that holds umpires accountable for their inadequacies. Viva la Hawk. Once Hawk is gone, the umps will have total control!!!  (I love hawk and this is part of the Hawk package) |
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