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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Ventura turns down extension |
Seems like an odd move. Why would he do that? http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/02/13/ ... white-sox/ |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
RFDC wrote: Playing hardball. He'll get more money out of 'em... |
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Krazy Ivan wrote: RFDC wrote: Playing hardball. He'll get more money out of 'em... Maybe. But I remember when he took the job, he said he was going to do it for two years and then see where he was at. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
I don't think he is convinced he wants to be a manager. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
RFDC wrote: I don't think he is convinced he wants to be a manager. Yeah, I've gotten that feeling from him all along. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
He did it as a favor to Kenny. He'll probably throw some games this season to make sure the problem takes care of itself White Sox Tradition and all |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: I don't think he is convinced he wants to be a manager. Yeah, I've gotten that feeling from him all along. Even though he said yesterday that he likes his job and that he appeared to get more comfortable as the season progressed a year ago, guys, I tend to agree about RV managing this team long term. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
rogers park bryan wrote: He did it as a favor to Kenny. He'll probably throw some games this season to make sure the problem takes care of itself White Sox Tradition and all  I'm sorry.....couldn't here you. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Dude's got probably $50mil in the bank. What's the rush? Why limit your options? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Krazy Ivan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: He did it as a favor to Kenny. He'll probably throw some games this season to make sure the problem takes care of itself White Sox Tradition and all I'm sorry.....couldn't here you. Im sorry I didnt realize you were Goldendomer until now |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:22 pm ] |
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Its all Kenny's fault. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
rogers park bryan wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: He did it as a favor to Kenny. He'll probably throw some games this season to make sure the problem takes care of itself White Sox Tradition and all I'm sorry.....couldn't here you. Im sorry I didnt realize you were Goldendomer until now You are the worst poster hear... |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Its all Kenny's fault. It is in this case. I'm glad he turned it down. I don't think it would be overly difficult to find a guy with no other items on his CV than even temperedness and being a former player |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
I've known this, yeah, my guy was tellin' me this a while ago. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:04 pm ] |
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Ventura is like Gene Lamont without all the charisma. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
He's going to make a lot more when he wins yet another World Series for the White Sox. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: He's going to make a lot more when he wins yet another World Series for the White Sox. 
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| Author: | bigfan [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Q.Bovifs wrote: Sounds like Robin's gonna hand off the whistle to Paulie. No way Paulie stays here. That guy is headed to AZ as soon as he is done....or maybe before |
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Robin Ventura will be the next Cubs Manager. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: He's going to make a lot more when he wins yet another World Series for the White Sox. Might squeeze 2 in before contract is up |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Colonel Angus wrote: Robin Ventura will be the next Cubs Manager. And then many of the deluded will start to compare him to Terry Francona and chirp confidently that Theo's plan is in full effect. 
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Maybe it was a bad offer? |
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| Author: | Rod [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
I listened to bernstein break it down. It had to be all about money and the best way to squeeze the last dollar from the situation. It couldn't possibly be that a guy who has enough dough for his next six lifetimes also has enough integrity that he didn't want to commit to another year when he has no idea how he will feel about managing two years down the road. When that concept arose, li'l danny put on his lawyer hat and began writing a contract with an opt out clause. He couldn't understand how a person wouldn't grab as much money as possible as fast as he could. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Ventura strikes me as sane. Maybe he doesnt want to spend 6 months a year on the road and away from his family. Maybe he has front office aspirations. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
rogers park bryan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: He's going to make a lot more when he wins yet another World Series for the White Sox. Might squeeze 2 in before contract is up |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I listened to bernstein break it down. It had to be all about money and the best way to squeeze the last dollar from the situation. It couldn't possibly be that a guy who has enough dough for his next six lifetimes also has enough integrity that he didn't want to commit to another year when he has no idea how he will feel about managing two years down the road. When that concept arose, li'l danny put on his lawyer hat and began writing a contract with an opt out clause. He couldn't understand how a person wouldn't grab as much money as possible as fast as he could. Ugh. As other people have stated, Ventura might not like the managing thing and want out when it's all done and simply doesn't want to commit to anything. Maybe he doesn't want to leave the White Sox hanging at the end with an opt-out clause and such, maybe he has a bit of integrity and doesn't care about "squeezing every last dollar?" His hire was out of the blue, he had little experience and he also seemed to be sort of reluctant. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
rogers park bryan wrote: Ventura strikes me as sane. Maybe he doesnt want to spend 6 months a year on the road and away from his family. Maybe he has front office aspirations. But he's leaving money on the table! How do you leave money on the table??????? dan bernstein- confirming stereotypes since 2003. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Ventura is probably worried the Sox are going to trade him to Miami. |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
Perhaps he wants to see what kind of job Rick Hahn will do over the next couple of years. If Hahn gives him a great roster to manage, he might want to stick around. If he decides to rebuild and is handing him a roster full of young players that he can't truely contend with Ventura might want to consider other options. Makes sense to me, |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ventura turns down extension |
He knows that the extension is on the table every day until his current contract runs out. He is one of JR guys and we know how loyal JR is to his guys. |
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