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I know you can only blame the manager for so much, but I do think if it wasnt one of the teams favorite sons, he is fired! or at the least, the discussion is being had about his future of not being renewed, yet the Sox offered him an extension?

Forget about the losing streak, even before that they have been at the very bottom of the league in most offensive and defensive categories.

Just because he is a great guy, it doesnt make him a great or even good manager. See the President of the United States!

The fact he was basically out of the game for 10 years and the Sox thought they can just make him the manager and everything will be fine, is almost a slap in the face of every team who has ever spent good money on picking what they think will be a manager that made a difference.

Robin seems like he would be a good guy to have on staff and I do think it might have been a smart move to bring him in as a bench coach for at least a year, if you really had to make him the manager.

Author:	bigfan [ Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:31 pm ]
Post subject:	FIRE ROBIN
I know you can only blame the manager for so much, but I do think if it wasnt one of the teams favorite sons, he is fired! or at the least, the discussion is being had about his future of not being renewed, yet the Sox offered him an extension? Forget about the losing streak, even before that they have been at the very bottom of the league in most offensive and defensive categories. Just because he is a great guy, it doesnt make him a great or even good manager. See the President of the United States! The fact he was basically out of the game for 10 years and the Sox thought they can just make him the manager and everything will be fine, is almost a slap in the face of every team who has ever spent good money on picking what they think will be a manager that made a difference. Robin seems like he would be a good guy to have on staff and I do think it might have been a smart move to bring him in as a bench coach for at least a year, if you really had to make him the manager.

Author:	Colonel Angus [ Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: FIRE ROBIN
Robin Ventura > Terry Bevington

Author:	pittmike [ Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: FIRE ROBIN
One thing I can't understand is the drop in defense from last year till now.

Author:	bigfan [ Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:40 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: FIRE ROBIN
Colonel Angus wrote: Robin Ventura > Terry Bevington Southpaw > Bevington

Author:	bigfan [ Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: FIRE ROBIN
pittmike wrote: One thing I can't understand is the drop in defense from last year till now. Lack of Camp Cora? Robin was given a ton of credit for last year, I think he should be taking some heat for this year.

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Author:	Seacrest [ Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: FIRE ROBIN
bigfan wrote: Colonel Angus wrote: Robin Ventura > Terry Bevington Southpaw > Bevington

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:08 am ]
Post subject:	Re: FIRE ROBIN
So you also want Dale Sveum gone too?

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:20 am ]
Post subject:	Re: FIRE ROBIN
Frank Coztansa wrote: So you also want Dale Sveum gone too? Does that affect Robin Ventura?

Author:	bigfan [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:23 am ]
Post subject:	Re: FIRE ROBIN
Frank Coztansa wrote: So you also want Dale Sveum gone too? If his next year is like robin this year. YES I want him gone Especially when he is given the flexibility to create his own staff of coaches like he has.

Author:	good dolphin [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:58 am ]
Post subject:	Re: FIRE ROBIN
bigfan wrote: I know you can only blame the manager for so much, but I do think if it wasnt one of the teams favorite sons, he is fired! or at the least, the discussion is being had about his future of not being renewed, yet the Sox offered him an extension? Forget about the losing streak, even before that they have been at the very bottom of the league in most offensive and defensive categories. Just because he is a great guy, it doesnt make him a great or even good manager. See the President of the United States! The fact he was basically out of the game for 10 years and the Sox thought they can just make him the manager and everything will be fine, is almost a slap in the face of every team who has ever spent good money on picking what they think will be a manager that made a difference. Robin seems like he would be a good guy to have on staff and I do think it might have been a smart move to bring him in as a bench coach for at least a year, if you really had to make him the manager. You know how JR is with hiring non on field/court personell. He won't deal with agents which eliminates anyone with any track record and most hot commodity types. His negotiations are demeaning to those coaches once they prove themselves and are looking for their second contract with the team. He pretty much has to hire outside of the box candidates. That leaves you with calling up Robin while he is on the golf course enjoying the $100 or so million he earned in his careeer and twisting his arm to take a high stress job for $1 million per.

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