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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | White Sox Draft Thread |
Prospects are suspects! |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Alex Fernandez Frank Thomas Jack McDowell Robin Ventura What a drafting run! |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Harold Reynolds said your first round pick is big league ready so you got that going for you. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:31 am ] |
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conns7901 wrote: Harold Reynolds said your first round pick is big league ready so you got that going for you. What else would he say since the kid is represented by Reynolds' brother. The Sox take another "athlete". Maybe one day they'll start drafting ballplayers. Billy Beane was smart enough to know he was a bust as a player and he avoids drafting guys like himself like they are the plague. Kenny Williams tries to draft versions of himself every year and they never work out. He was a bust and so are they. |
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| Author: | Drop In [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: conns7901 wrote: Harold Reynolds said your first round pick is big league ready so you got that going for you. What else would he say since the kid is represented by Reynolds' brother. The Sox take another "athlete". Maybe one day they'll start drafting ballplayers. Billy Beane was smart enough to know he was a bust as a player and he avoids drafting guys like himself like they are the plague. Kenny Williams tries to draft versions of himself every year and they never work out. He was a bust and so are they. I can't wait to see the movie based on the life of Kenny Williams. I would go to the theater to see Will Smith try to figure out who stole his lobster. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: conns7901 wrote: Harold Reynolds said your first round pick is big league ready so you got that going for you. What else would he say since the kid is represented by Reynolds' brother. The Sox take another "athlete". Maybe one day they'll start drafting ballplayers. Billy Beane was smart enough to know he was a bust as a player and he avoids drafting guys like himself like they are the plague. Kenny Williams tries to draft versions of himself every year and they never work out. He was a bust and so are they. This is why you need nerdy non athletes drafting. Im sure Billy Beane has missed on some decent players because they were athletes |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
I'd take the athlete every time. |
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Keyser Soze wrote: I'd take the athlete every time. Why have the Cubs drafts with Wilkins pretty much sucked? Isn't his thing drafting athletes? Just curious since you know what you're talking about with draft/minor leaguers. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Wilkens thing wasn't drafting athletes it was drafting bat speed. Vitters and Baez had the best bat speed in the draft. Colvin and Jackson were also considered to have great bat speed. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
I think the Sox problem is more that they draft guys with big power and absolutely no clue about the strike zone |
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| Author: | Rod [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Keyser Soze wrote: I'd take the athlete every time. The Sox have enough of them hitting .230 in the minor leagues. They look great doing it though. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
rogers park bryan wrote: This is why you need nerdy non athletes drafting. When I see TheoandJed they look like a couple guys getting excited about their fantasy team. Yesterday was their Super Bowl. Are you happy with their effort? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I'd take the athlete every time. The Sox have enough of them hitting .230 in the minor leagues. They look great doing it though. Ironically, De Aza is an athlete type isnt he? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
good dolphin wrote: I think the Sox problem is more that they draft guys with big power and absolutely no clue about the strike zone They gave a guy like that $54 million in the free ajent market too.
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| Author: | Rod [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
rogers park bryan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I'd take the athlete every time. The Sox have enough of them hitting .230 in the minor leagues. They look great doing it though. Ironically, De Aza is an athlete type isnt he? And I'd bet a lot of money he's better than any outfielder the Sox have drafted in the last ten years will ever be. I can't wait for the Courtney Hawkins era! |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: This is why you need nerdy non athletes drafting. When I see TheoandJed they look like a couple guys getting excited about their fantasy team. Yesterday was their Super Bowl. Are you happy with their effort? I assume the effort was there. Hard to judge a draft after one day. I guess it was fine. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Drafting is only half the equation. Draft athletes and develop them into ballplayers. De Aza obviously never developed into a ball player. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Your hate for DeAza is completely and totally irrational given how poorly other guys on the Sox have performed this year. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Keyser Soze wrote: I'd take the athlete every time. What is an example of the Sox drafting an athlete and it working out? I am with JORR, you draft ball players. Chris Sale is a ball player. That is the kind of guys you draft. |
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| Author: | cpguy [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Drop In wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: conns7901 wrote: Harold Reynolds said your first round pick is big league ready so you got that going for you. What else would he say since the kid is represented by Reynolds' brother. The Sox take another "athlete". Maybe one day they'll start drafting ballplayers. Billy Beane was smart enough to know he was a bust as a player and he avoids drafting guys like himself like they are the plague. Kenny Williams tries to draft versions of himself every year and they never work out. He was a bust and so are they. I can't wait to see the movie based on the life of Kenny Williams. I would go to the theater to see Will Smith try to figure out who stole his lobster. I guess Kenny scouted their 1st round pick so obviously he recommended him. Scary. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
I was pretty excited until I heard KW was involved. At least the little guy has put up huge stats in JC. I recall they drafted another JC SS, Dallearo. He couldn't even hit in JC. That dude the Cubs picked looks like Dave Kingman, which wouldn't be bad I suppose. .329 BA in major college is pretty damn poor. Don't tell RPB though. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
cpguy wrote: Drop In wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: conns7901 wrote: Harold Reynolds said your first round pick is big league ready so you got that going for you. What else would he say since the kid is represented by Reynolds' brother. The Sox take another "athlete". Maybe one day they'll start drafting ballplayers. Billy Beane was smart enough to know he was a bust as a player and he avoids drafting guys like himself like they are the plague. Kenny Williams tries to draft versions of himself every year and they never work out. He was a bust and so are they. I can't wait to see the movie based on the life of Kenny Williams. I would go to the theater to see Will Smith try to figure out who stole his lobster. I guess Kenny scouted their 1st round pick so obviously he recommended him. Scary. Brian Anderson! KW's signature scouting project of close to 6 years of due diligence in that selection. "I guarantee this guy will have at least a 10 year career in the majors Jerry." 4/5 years of random callups, a few highlights? batted 220? From the level of expectation to the highest level of production he ever had. TOTAL BUST! |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
bigfan wrote: Brian Anderson! KW's signature scouting project of close to 6 years of due diligence in that selection. "I guarantee this guy will have at least a 10 year career in the majors Jerry." 4/5 years of random callups, a few highlights? batted 220? From the level of expectation to the highest level of production he ever had. TOTAL BUST! Self described Texas Trailer Trash |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
bigfan wrote: "I guarantee this guy will have at least a 10 year career in the majors Jerry." While the rest of your post may be true, there is no way you know for sure that this was said.
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
BA had all the tools, except the most important one...the ability to make contact. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
They had to trade away Mc Carthy because he and Anderson were more interested in drinking till all hours than working at their craft |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
McCarthy was traded for John Danks. KW won that deal. With Hudson having to (likely) get a second Tommy John surgery, he's won the Edwin Jackson trade too. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
I love the Sox 4th round pick Andrew Mitchell from TCU. He's a lot like last years 2nd rounder Chris Beck in they were both considered first round talents coming into the draft but they dropped due to an up and down season. Mitchell (6'3" 220) is workhorse type pitcher with with a very strong arm. He has a low to mid 90's fastball and a big hammer curveball. His command comes and goes and he needs to develop his change up. If he can be more consistent with his mechanics and develop his change he can be a middle of the rotation starter. If not he's a nice power arm for the bullpen. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Frank Coztansa wrote: McCarthy was traded for John Danks. KW won that deal. Bah. Two under .500 guys. I guess I'll take the lefty. But I wouldn't really say anyone "won" anything with that one. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Draft Thread |
Brace for Hawk jumping off a bridge today or at least silencing himself for the entire game....... The Orioles and not the Sox drafted the grandson of none other than the legendary and great Yaz!!!!! |
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