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Does Sale Have A Legitimate Shot At Cy Young?
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Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Does Sale Have A Legitimate Shot At Cy Young?

I mean over 700 wins in a career not the award.

Scherzer is going to be the obvious favorite but Sale really has been better than him

Author:  Rod [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Does Sale Have A Legitimate Shot At Cy Young?

good dolphin wrote:
I mean over 700 wins in a career not the award.

Scherzer is going to be the obvious favorite but Sale really has been better than him



He shouldn't. And I don't think he has been better than Scherzer. You just can't break the game down that way. Yeah, Scherzer team has scored more within the games he's pitched, but it isn't as simple as eliminating half the game and replacing it with different results.

Author:  Apologist [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Does Sale Have A Legitimate Shot At Cy Young?

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Author:  Rod [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Does Sale Have A Legitimate Shot At Cy Young?

Apologist, do you think a guy should win a Cy Young with a losing record? Can't we find someone else whose pitching resulted in better outcomes for his team regardless of how well you might believe the loser "controlled" the things he can "control"?

Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Does Sale Have A Legitimate Shot At Cy Young?

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I mean over 700 wins in a career not the award.

Scherzer is going to be the obvious favorite but Sale really has been better than him



He shouldn't. And I don't think he has been better than Scherzer. You just can't break the game down that way. Yeah, Scherzer team has scored more within the games he's pitched, but it isn't as simple as eliminating half the game and replacing it with different results.


They are incredibly similar in every category except W/L. I do agree that in such a circumstance to the victor go the spoils.

Author:  Apologist [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Does Sale Have A Legitimate Shot At Cy Young?

No, I do not thing Sale has a chance.

I have no problem with Felix winning it a couple years ago.

Were I to have a vote (which, I do not) I think my ballot might be

1. Scherzer
2. Darvish
3. Sale

Author:  Northside_Dan [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Does Sale Have A Legitimate Shot At Cy Young?

Apologist wrote:
No, I do not thing Sale has a chance.

I have no problem with Felix winning it a couple years ago.

Were I to have a vote (which, I do not) I think my ballot might be

1. Scherzer
2. Darvish
3. Sale


This would be mine as well. Also agreed on Felix.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Does Sale Have A Legitimate Shot At Cy Young?

I wasn't crazy about Felix winning it, but that was a rare case where his team was so inept offensively as compared to all opponents and his other numbers so overwhelmingly superior that I wouldn't argue with it. That isn't the case with Sale and is rarely the case for anyone. If we're just going to hand the award to the guy with the highest WAR, why even have a vote?

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