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Why? His two World Series rings? His looks? His intelligence? Jealousy?

Kirkwood wrote:

Why? His two World Series rings? His looks? His intelligence? Jealousy?

Why are you asking White Sox fans to explain the hero worship and blind loyalty to him?

Wrong section.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Why? His two World Series rings? His looks? His intelligence? Jealousy?

Why are you asking White Sox fans to explain the hero worship and blind loyalty to him?

Wrong section.

Incorrect. I know why Cubs fans are as he's the GM. I want to know why White Sox fans equally if not more obsessed. So what are your reasons?

Inferiority complex.

Jealous of the Cubs for all the unearned media attention. Pretty much the same story for the last 30 years.

Why? His two World Series rings? His looks? His intelligence? Jealousy?

Kirkwood wrote:

Why? His two World Series rings? His looks? His intelligence? Jealousy?

Rick Hahn, good looking guy and can go Diploma for Diploma with Theo.

Hatchetman wrote:

Jealous of the Cubs for all the unearned media attention. Pretty much the same story for the last 30 years.

And the thing is, that is not the fault of the Cub fan.

Your beef is with the MEDIA

Theo would be jealous of Hahn's academic pedigree.

We just had a civil conversation. I think we're doing this wrong.

Terry's Peeps wrote:

We just had a civil conversation. I think we're doing this wrong.

I blame them for hiring Sveum. I salute them for firing him if they weren't happy with the direction. I would blame them if I thought they fired Sveum to specifically get Girardi and failed. I blame the media for making Girardi seem like the only choice. This hire had better work.

Drop In wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

We just had a civil conversation. I think we're doing this wrong.

But if you think Sveum was a lousy hire, what makes you think this one will be better? I'm not trying to badger you, I'm just trying to understand your thought process and why Epstein is getting such a long leash from many Cubs fans when others in his position haven't?

Drop In wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

We just had a civil conversation. I think we're doing this wrong.

Furthermore, whether you think its right or not, I believe Sveum was a place holder.

rogers park bryan wrote:

Furthermore, whether you think its right or not, I believe Sveum was a place holder.

He was fired because they believed he was hurting the development of the players. If he was hired to suck, and then fired because he sucks, that is the worst move that our favorite obsession has made with the Cubs. It would be better for Theo if he thought Sveum was the next Francona and was simply wrong. To hire Sveum as a placeholder and then he is so bad at his job that he can't even be a placeholder for the whole three years is really bad.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:49 am ]
Post subject:	Theo Obsession
Why? His two World Series rings? His looks? His intelligence? Jealousy?

Author:	Brick [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:50 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Kirkwood wrote: Why? His two World Series rings? His looks? His intelligence? Jealousy? Why are you asking White Sox fans to explain the hero worship and blind loyalty to him? Wrong section.

Author:	Hank Scorpio [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:50 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Quite simply, he has a huge hog.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Why? His two World Series rings? His looks? His intelligence? Jealousy? Why are you asking White Sox fans to explain the hero worship and blind loyalty to him? Wrong section. Incorrect. I know why Cubs fans are as he's the GM. I want to know why White Sox fans equally if not more obsessed. So what are your reasons?

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:58 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
On this site, there are a few posters that are obsessed with Theo. They all root for the White Sox

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Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:59 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Theo is not a GM.

Author:	Hank Scorpio [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:00 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Frank Coztansa wrote: Theo is not a GM. He is THEE GM.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:01 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Kirkwood wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Why? His two World Series rings? His looks? His intelligence? Jealousy? Why are you asking White Sox fans to explain the hero worship and blind loyalty to him? Wrong section. Incorrect. I know why Cubs fans are as he's the GM. I want to know why White Sox fans equally if not more obsessed. So what are your reasons? It's because I want him to win the World Series.

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:06 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Inferiority complex. Plus Dan Bernstein hitched his wagon to him, so any failure of The-O means Dan Bernstein is a failure.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:07 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Terry's Peeps wrote: Inferiority complex. It's because we want free drinks when the Cubs give up a homer.

Author:	Hatchetman [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Jealous of the Cubs for all the unearned media attention. Pretty much the same story for the last 30 years.

Author:	Hatchetman [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:31 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Yeah, but a lot of Cub fans are annoying as shit. The Wayne Stylie types. I don't mind the Jimmy Pastas of the world.

Author:	bigfan [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:05 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Kirkwood wrote: Why? His two World Series rings? His looks? His intelligence? Jealousy? Rick Hahn, good looking guy and can go Diploma for Diploma with Theo.

Author:	good dolphin [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
bigfan wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Why? His two World Series rings? His looks? His intelligence? Jealousy? Rick Hahn, good looking guy and can go Diploma for Diploma with Theo. Theo would be jealous of Hahn's academic pedigree.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
1. Sveum failed at developing Rizzo and Castro. Two "pillars" of the rebuild. 2. Yes! Epsteins quotes have been diplomatic but there seems to be frustration behind them. Ricketts stinks.

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Author:	Seacrest [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:33 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
good dolphin wrote: Theo would be jealous of Hahn's academic pedigree. I thought Hahn went to New Trier?

Author:	Hatchetman [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Only losers pull out their pedigree in pubic.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:50 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Bump. Another Chiago media failure pinned on Epstoyer. Take issue with Bernstein and Chicago media being incredibly wrong. National baseball guys kept saying Girardi was staying all along.

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Why fire Sveum if you couldn't get Girardi? And if it wasn't Epstoyer making the call, doesn't that mean there are bigger problems?

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
We just had a civil conversation. I think we're doing this wrong.

Author:	Drop In [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Terry's Peeps wrote: We just had a civil conversation. I think we're doing this wrong. I blame them for hiring Sveum. I salute them for firing him if they weren't happy with the direction. I would blame them if I thought they fired Sveum to specifically get Girardi and failed. I blame the media for making Girardi seem like the only choice. This hire had better work.

Author:	Rod [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:36 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Drop In wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: We just had a civil conversation. I think we're doing this wrong. I blame them for hiring Sveum. I salute them for firing him if they weren't happy with the direction. I would blame them if I thought they fired Sveum to specifically get Girardi and failed. I blame the media for making Girardi seem like the only choice. This hire had better work. But if you think Sveum was a lousy hire, what makes you think this one will be better? I'm not trying to badger you, I'm just trying to understand your thought process and why Epstein is getting such a long leash from many Cubs fans when others in his position haven't?

Author:	Kirkwood [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
He hired a two-time World Series champion manager in Terry Francona.

Author:	Drop In [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Drop In wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: We just had a civil conversation. I think we're doing this wrong. I blame them for hiring Sveum. I salute them for firing him if they weren't happy with the direction. I would blame them if I thought they fired Sveum to specifically get Girardi and failed. I blame the media for making Girardi seem like the only choice. This hire had better work. But if you think Sveum was a lousy hire, what makes you think this one will be better? I'm not trying to badger you, I'm just trying to understand your thought process and why Epstein is getting such a long leash from many Cubs fans when others in his position haven't? Who in his position didn't have the same amount of rope? MacPhail? Hendry, in a different role? Further back?

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:20 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Drop In wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: We just had a civil conversation. I think we're doing this wrong. I blame them for hiring Sveum. I salute them for firing him if they weren't happy with the direction. I would blame them if I thought they fired Sveum to specifically get Girardi and failed. I blame the media for making Girardi seem like the only choice. This hire had better work. But if you think Sveum was a lousy hire, what makes you think this one will be better? I'm not trying to badger you, I'm just trying to understand your thought process and why Epstein is getting such a long leash from many Cubs fans when others in his position haven't? I would argue McPhail also got a long leash and its becausw they both won two titles in the job before Cubs. Furthermore, whether you think its right or not, I believe Sveum was a place holder.

Author:	Rod [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
rogers park bryan wrote: Furthermore, whether you think its right or not, I believe Sveum was a place holder. That being the case, why didn't they just let him finish his contract? Was it because they thought they were going to get Girardi? If that's true, then they're making some pretty big miscalculations, don't you think?

Author:	Brick [ Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:08 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
rogers park bryan wrote: Furthermore, whether you think its right or not, I believe Sveum was a place holder. He was fired because they believed he was hurting the development of the players. If he was hired to suck, and then fired because he sucks, that is the worst move that our favorite obsession has made with the Cubs. It would be better for Theo if he thought Sveum was the next Francona and was simply wrong. To hire Sveum as a placeholder and then he is so bad at his job that he can't even be a placeholder for the whole three years is really bad.

Author:	Rod [ Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:06 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Theo Obsession
Boilermaker Rick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Furthermore, whether you think its right or not, I believe Sveum was a place holder. He was fired because they believed he was hurting the development of the players. If he was hired to suck, and then fired because he sucks, that is the worst move that our favorite obsession has made with the Cubs. It would be better for Theo if he thought Sveum was the next Francona and was simply wrong. To hire Sveum as a placeholder and then he is so bad at his job that he can't even be a placeholder for the whole three years is really bad. I can't believe that Really. Smart. Guys. actually blamed Sveum for the failures of Rizzo and Castro. These are big league players that TheoandJed have already rewarded with seven year contracts. Are we really saying they need "development"? Besides that, it was Theo Himself who fucked Castro up by demanding he take more walks. Thus, I have to believe that Theo (or Ricketts and Kenney) saw the narrow window to get Girardi and dumped Theo's first hand-picked manager to do it. And now they're just going to hire another Sveum.