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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Fire Ventura |
He needs to go. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
He shouldn't have been hired. |
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| Author: | newper [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
Eh, who cares... Sox are more than a manager away from contending. Just as long as he doesn't Dusty Baker the pitchers, I don't really care. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
Weren't they going to make the playoffs until the last week or so of the season during his first year? |
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
veganfan21 wrote: Weren't they going to make the playoffs until the last week or so of the season during his first year? Weren't they going to make the playoffs until the first pitch of this season? |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
Colonel Angus wrote: veganfan21 wrote: Weren't they going to make the playoffs until the last week or so of the season during his first year? Weren't they going to make the playoffs until the first pitch of this season?  Probably not but if I recall correctly they were exceeding expectations in his first year until they collapsed near the end. I thought it was an auspicious start to his managerial career but I guess not.
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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
what did he do tonight? |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
....but he lights up a room when he enters it. |
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| Author: | billypootons [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
he has to be among a select few in MLB history to ink a contract extension after a season of losing 99 games |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
bigfan wrote: ....but he lights up a room when he enters it. you mean when he leaves it 
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
billypootons wrote: he has to be among a select few in MLB history to ink a contract extension after a season of losing 99 games and the jump from California High School part time roving instructor to MLB manager, might also be a select club. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
bigfan wrote: billypootons wrote: he has to be among a select few in MLB history to ink a contract extension after a season of losing 99 games and the jump from California High School part time roving instructor to MLB manager, might also be a select club. They were saying last night that the Rockies manager was a former player and was a high school coach with no professional coaching experience prior to being hired. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
bigfan wrote: billypootons wrote: he has to be among a select few in MLB history to ink a contract extension after a season of losing 99 games and the jump from California High School part time roving instructor to MLB manager, might also be a select club. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
Frank Coztansa wrote: bigfan wrote: billypootons wrote: he has to be among a select few in MLB history to ink a contract extension after a season of losing 99 games and the jump from California High School part time roving instructor to MLB manager, might also be a select club.Very jealous and it bothers me very much. I was kinda hoping I would get the job. Thought my 2 years of Tee ball coaching, combined with limited play in the minors (or as Leary would say, DePaul club ball) would at least get me an interview. |
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| Author: | lipidquadcab [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
FavreFan wrote: bigfan wrote: billypootons wrote: he has to be among a select few in MLB history to ink a contract extension after a season of losing 99 games and the jump from California High School part time roving instructor to MLB manager, might also be a select club. They were saying last night that the Rockies manager was a former player and was a high school coach with no professional coaching experience prior to being hired. Seems to be a trend... |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
WW was in Rockies front office for 9 years scouting. Was maybe going to be next GM, but when his kid made HS team he went to help him. Then came back to Rockies. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
bigfan wrote: WW was in Rockies front office for 9 years scouting. So you agree that he had no professional coaching experience. Good talk, Russ. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
3 minutes to chase my posts, you are slipping. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
Q.Bovifs wrote: HIRE RYNO!!!!! Easy there Rozner. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
FavreFan wrote: bigfan wrote: billypootons wrote: he has to be among a select few in MLB history to ink a contract extension after a season of losing 99 games and the jump from California High School part time roving instructor to MLB manager, might also be a select club. They were saying last night that the Rockies manager was a former player and was a high school coach with no professional coaching experience prior to being hired. Just so I am clear on this one.... You start the thread that says FIRE VENTURA and then go on to provide support for him? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
bigfan wrote: FavreFan wrote: bigfan wrote: billypootons wrote: he has to be among a select few in MLB history to ink a contract extension after a season of losing 99 games and the jump from California High School part time roving instructor to MLB manager, might also be a select club. They were saying last night that the Rockies manager was a former player and was a high school coach with no professional coaching experience prior to being hired. Just so I am clear on this one.... You start the thread that says FIRE VENTURA and then go on to provide support for him? Where was I supporting him? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
Bump. Allowed a foul ball to be called a HR. Not sure Robin knows there's a replay/challenge system instituted now. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
FavreFan wrote: Bump. Allowed a foul ball to be called a HR. Not sure Robin knows there's a replay/challenge system instituted now. That's a big problem with replay. Is the goal to get the calls right or to set up an arbitrary system to get the calls right occasionally depending on a manager's decision? Before the umpires made the calls and that was that. They were right or wrong, but they did their best and everybody lived within the same paradigm. Now, sometimes calls are overturned (correctly or incorrectly), sometimes they go unchallenged, and it's just like officiating roulette. Just trust the umps to get it right most of the time. Here's a case where they didn't and replay didn't help. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
I'm not even a Sox fan and I'm kinda ticked at how Ventura fucked up tonight. Should have left Sale finish 8th. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
Did you think that before Petricka gave up the runs or after? |
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| Author: | spmack [ Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
Keyser Soze wrote: Did you think that before Petricka gave up the runs or after? I thought it before. Sale was getting up there in pitches, yes, but unless Sale gets into the ASG, he's probably not pitching again for 8-9 days. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
Ok. It didn't even enter my mind to leave him in because I didn't think even this awful bullpen could give up 5 runs before they got 4 outs. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
I don't think it's a matter of the ASG coming up. It's not Venturas fault they lost this game, even though he does suck. Petricka has been pitching really well. There was no reason to feel worry giving him the ball with a 4 run, 4 out lead. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
Its the situation. The guy hit an infield single, and only got to 2nd because Alexei didn't feel like he needed to cover the bag. You have one of (if not the) best pitcher in the AL on the mound, pitching a shutout, 2 outs with a runner on 3rd in the 8th inning. Have Petricka (Putnam, whoever) ready to go and if Sale gives up that run you yank him. He should have been left in to try and get that final out of the 8th for one more batter. Going into the 9th inning up 4-0 or 4-1 looks a lot better. Also as I pointed out in the other thread, Viciedo was thrown out at 2nd and DeAza at home last night. More bad baserunning, which also falls squarely on Ventura. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fire Ventura |
shit's gonna happen when you got a bunch of scrubs in the bullpen. |
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