http://espn.go.com/blog/buster-olney/insider/post?id=10467 From WWN to ESPN insiders page

That article compares him to Randy Johnson. Remember when that was a punchline in this forum?

As it should have been when it was first discussed, just as you guys should mock people around here for comparing the Cubs young players to studs.

Sox going for it again next year. Not trading Sale.

Why anyone thinks they would start the rebuild process now is hysterical. Jerrys whole life has almost ignored the minor leagues...so you think at age 112 he is going to start looking to the future??? lol

David Robertson to Cub would make some sense, no?

I'm not sure what Robertson's no-trade situation is. I'm sure Keyser Soze knows. Plus I doubt the Cubs would want to go on the hook for that big long term money for a closer. I think Duke would make more sense for the Cubs if they were going to deal with the Sox.

People throw trades around and they're generally not realistic and almost never happen. But for the sake of argument, what do Cubs and Sox fans think would be a fair return if the Sox gave the Cubs Quintana and Duke?

Who would you ask for a starting point?

a fair return if the Sox gave the Cubs Quintana and Duke?

would probably have to start with gleyber torres who's in low-a.

none of the tradeable package pieces in aa or aaa are a fit for the sox (almora, alcantara, vogelbach)

duke doesn't have much value. he's a burden moreso than a piece

I don't want Duke , but Quintana is valuable.

I'd be willing to trade Lake, Alcantara and Baez for Quintana.

If anyone will just take Laroche and Cabrera they are gone. They might need to throw Robertson in with Eaton for someone to take that money as well.

The cubs ain't desperate .. Cueto ..greinke and price are free agents in 5 months ..the cubs will get one.

That's wrong. There will be a market for Duke. In fact, he's better than any lefty the Cubs have in the pen. Maybe better than anyone they have in the pen period.

Vogelbach isn't a prospect. He's a fat piece of shit slugging in the minors. Nobody wants him. Nobody wants Alcantara either. And you're going to have to give more than Almora for a guy considered to be a quality lefthanded started signed to a very favorable deal.

Baez, Castro , lake and alcantero for quintana.

It can't be that you just dump guys you don't want. if we're going to talk realistically, you're going to have to give up something for Quintana who is signed very cheaply for multiple years and is, in the mind's of most baseball people, a high quality lefthanded starter. You know why I don't like him. I think he's a loser and will be even if he goes where they average more runs per game. But as has been stated over and over here, that isn't a prevailing opinion.

It's not that Vogelbach and Alcantara aren't a "fit". It's that they aren't worth much. You're going to have to come with one major league ready guy and some young pitchers. Maybe you could make the deal with Almora. I'm not sure the Cubs want to do that. I'm sure they don't want to trade Russell, but it's not like he's some proven stud and they're loaded with middle infielders. Maybe the Sox would take McKinney. The Sox need a lot of stuff. I don't think they're in a position to worry about "fit". They just need quality. Not Vogelbach.