so the only one they nailed was the Sox.
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | How Are White Sox Under .500... |
When they are superior at every position, starting pitching 1-5 and bullpen to the 20 games over .500 Cubs? Thanks, I'll hang up and listen for the answer. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:06 pm ] |
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Just bad luck. |
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:07 pm ] |
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Works for me. bigfan, please lock the thread. Peeps answered the question. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:09 pm ] |
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Sometimes it just happens that every player has a down season. Or 2. |
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| Author: | ChicagoEd [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:12 pm ] |
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Too many just missed 'ems according to Hawk. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:26 pm ] |
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Every Cub is having a career year. Every Sox player is having a career low year. Next question. |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:36 pm ] |
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Cubs have more TWTW |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:23 pm ] |
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....nobody could have predicted this.... except for FANGRAPHS and Every other mathematical service that deals in baseball projections. I did say IF I would be betting, I would have bet the over....but I didnt want a certain Sox fan coming back and saying a bad team wasnt called by anyone, as it wwas predicted by most everyone who is in the business of projections,,,,,except the guys who should really be in that business. THE SOX. I also hear that claim by most every talking head in this city, that they expected a much better season by the season, but give no credence to a nate silver, baseall prospectus, pythag, fangraphs, etc etc....VEGAS! http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:15 pm ] |
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There was an article a couple years ago about how the Sox routinely beat pre-season projections. They finally got this one right. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:01 pm ] |
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You can't bring scrubs like Laroche n Guppy into the A.L. n expect much. This was all very foreseeable.. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:32 pm ] |
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i just had a thread a weak or so back (ow!) about how it is impossible to predict baseball via maths. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:35 pm ] |
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Impossible? Or difficult? I had the Sox @ 78 wins Cubs @84-85 I did have Washington @ 95 tho . |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:34 pm ] |
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impossible with any degree of accuracy |
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| Author: | Scooter [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:45 pm ] |
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I had mighty Cub @ 82-80. Sux @ 79-83 if I recall. Missed bad on both. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:15 pm ] |
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PECOTA PREDICTIONS from JANUARY 29, 2015 2. The frantic season of the White Sox might not have been good enough It's hard not to love the offseason of the White Sox. They picked up Adam LaRoche on a completely reasonable contract, signed Melky Cabrera to a fine deal, traded for Jeff Samardzija, and blew a lot of money on an excellent closer. It was a frenetic offseason from a team that was in danger of lulling its fans to sleep. The only problem: PECOTA dislikes almost all of those moves. LaRoche is projected to slip down the birthday slope, Cabrera is supposed to be a solid regular and nothing more, Samardzija is projected to be barely above replacement level, and even the best relievers aren't going to make up a lot of the difference. Then you add up the moves they didn't make. The projected starter at second base is Carlos Sanchez, who is projected to be exactly at replacement level. The good news is Emilio Bonifacio is also there, just in case, and he projects to be a tenth of a win better. If Hector Noesi sticks as the fifth starter, he might be one of the worst rotation regulars in the game, and John Danks is going to be mediocre in the best-case scenarios. That's the best part about projections, though. You can cherry pick the ones you don't trust and remove them from your own mental calculus. Samardzija having the worst full season of his career? I'll take the over. If Noesi really is that bad, he'll be replaced in short order, possibly by golden-armed prospect, Carlos Rodon. Slap the books out of PECOTA's hands and push it into its locker, dammit. Get mad, White Sox fans! Still, the regression forecasts for players like Conor Gillaspie and Adam Eaton are a little troubling. The White Sox spent a lot of money to contend. They can't afford to have a lot of players moving backward. AGAIN, Samardzija having the worst full season of his career regression forecasts for players like Conor Gillaspie and Adam Eaton |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:22 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: There was an article a couple years ago about how the Sox routinely beat pre-season projections. They finally got this one right. Here it is. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-whit ... ojections/ |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:43 pm ] |
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show us all the Pecota projections |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:46 pm ] |
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is- ... ns-failed/ |
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| Author: | THE INQUISITOR [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:13 pm ] |
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Hatchetman wrote: show us all the Pecota projections I used to post things from my subscriptions to BP, BA and Insider but JORR and BRick said that was passive so I stopped. You can find all the information which I would share for free by just subscribing to the services but remember "The Illuminati" said these guys all are just know nothings sucking up to the Cubs and trying to get jobs there. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:48 pm ] |
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so the only one they nailed was the Sox.
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:52 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: There was an article a couple years ago about how the Sox routinely beat pre-season projections. They finally got this one right. Here it is. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-whit ... ojections/ Michael Ditka: " The past? ...its for cowards and losers" |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:55 pm ] |
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I'm cleaning up on the Guppy... Took the over on ERA over 4.55 and Danks ERA under the Guppy's... And Cubs wins>Sox wins . Lookin like an extra 1500 to piss away on NFL n NCAA football. |
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