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| Author: | cpguy [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
David Schuster @Schumouse 2h2 hours ago Robin Ventura says he DOES want to manage the Sox again next season ChicagoSports @ChicagoSports 19m19 minutes ago As White Sox ponder changes, Robin Ventura ‘absolutely’ wants to manage in 2016 (@ChiTribKane) http://trib.in/1KCXxWd    
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| Author: | Godfella [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
cpguy wrote: David Schuster @Schumouse 2h2 hours ago Robin Ventura says he DOES want to manage the Sox again next season Okay, so far that's one. Anybody else want him to come back? |
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| Author: | cpguy [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Interesting because now they'd have to can his ass. Would have been no surprise at all if he "resigned" after the season for "family reasons". |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Godfella wrote: cpguy wrote: David Schuster @Schumouse 2h2 hours ago Robin Ventura says he DOES want to manage the Sox again next season Okay, so far that's one. Anybody else want him to come back? Absolutely. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Godfella wrote: cpguy wrote: David Schuster @Schumouse 2h2 hours ago Robin Ventura says he DOES want to manage the Sox again next season Okay, so far that's one. Anybody else want him to come back? Not really, but I've changed my mind on him since the beginning of the season. I certainly dont think he is a good manager, or helping to improve the team, but he's far from the biggest problem with the team. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Keyser Soze wrote: Godfella wrote: cpguy wrote: David Schuster @Schumouse 2h2 hours ago Robin Ventura says he DOES want to manage the Sox again next season Okay, so far that's one. Anybody else want him to come back? Absolutely. I'm sorry you like bad managers. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
he's fine. he's no terry bevington that's for sure. you just need to "robin-proof" the roster. That's on KW. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
I think Ventura runs into the runs a good clubhouse doesn't hurt anything category. Unless you think he makes guys make errors or not hit then who cares? Bernsie always told me a manager and hitting coach do not matter anyway...until Maddon. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
He has been hurting them for the past 2 weeks by playing LaRoche and not playing Thompson (as OF or DH) every single day to see if they really have something in him for next year. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Frank Coztansa wrote: He has been hurting them for the past 2 weeks by playing LaRoche and not playing Thompson (as OF or DH) every single day to see if they really have something in him for next year. If GM wanted Thompson playing he would be. Don't be naive. Maddon also takes input from upstairs. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Maddon is a baseball God, he doesn't need to input from upstairs. I'm sure Theo loves the pajama party road trips, and the pitcher batting 8th. |
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| Author: | THE INQUISITOR [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Frank Coztansa wrote: He has been hurting them for the past 2 weeks by playing LaRoche and not playing Thompson (as OF or DH) every single day to see if they really have something in him for next year. I agree Frank... Thompson needs to play everyday.... he also needs to move Saladino to SS and see if he can play SS at the MLB level( I think he can)...let Olt play and see if has anything at 3rd. Use Montas in high stress critical spots and see how he handles pressure..(I think he will be lock down). |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Hatchetman wrote: he's fine. he's no terry bevington that's for sure. That's for sure. Bevington's winning percentage is about 50 points higher. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
c'mon man. this team is putrid. at midseason, BP called it "perhaps the worst team ever assembled."
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Hatchetman wrote: c'mon man. this team is putrid. at midseason, BP called it "perhaps the worst team ever assembled." Is that true? I'm no baseball historian like JORR, but I'm pretty certain this team is nowhere near that conversation.
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Robin singlehandedly cost them a game earlier this year by not challenging a play in Detroit. He should have been fired on the spot. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
I remember that 2004 Diamondbacks team being among the worst in recent memory. Randy Johnson and crap. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
they said "perhaps worst collection of position players" if I recall correctly. at that time most of the guys were below replacement level. |
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| Author: | cpguy [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
I say bring him back. Gives them a scapegoat for next year. 
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
FavreFan wrote: Hatchetman wrote: c'mon man. this team is putrid. at midseason, BP called it "perhaps the worst team ever assembled." Is that true? I'm no baseball historian like JORR, but I'm pretty certain this team is nowhere near that conversation.They were an historically bad offense for most of the season. They've been a bit better here at the end when it doesn't matter. For example, Cabrera and Ramriez will probably finish with numbers that look right but the way they compiled them is all wrong. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
"And I haven't felt strongly in the respect there needs to be any change along those lines, so I haven't brought up the subject. In direct answer to your question (on perception), if we feel he is the root of the problem, a change will be made." "Right now we're trying to find our way and nobody knows what the calendar looks like more than me," Williams said. "And there may come a time when we have to make some decisions, and some very hard decisions." "But that’s the kind of respect I have for him (Paul Konerko) that, yeah, I did consider it. Then I thought I think I would rather him be focused more on hitting third or fourth in the lineup and driving in 100 runs rather than trying to worry about 25 other guys in addition to it. We are trying to win." Next up? |
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| Author: | Scooter [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
bigfan wrote: "And I haven't felt strongly in the respect there needs to be any change along those lines, so I haven't brought up the subject. In direct answer to your question (on perception), if we feel he is the root of the problem, a change will be made." "Right now we're trying to find our way and nobody knows what the calendar looks like more than me," Williams said. "And there may come a time when we have to make some decisions, and some very hard decisions." "But that’s the kind of respect I have for him (Paul Konerko) that, yeah, I did consider it. Then I thought I think I would rather him be focused more on hitting third or fourth in the lineup and driving in 100 runs rather than trying to worry about 25 other guys in addition to it. We are trying to win." Next up? Abreau should have carried them all the way. Right? |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
"If they are underperforming to this degree as a whole, then I would have to say right now -- and I've told the chairman [Jerry Reinsdorf] this -- no, at the end of the day, it falls on my desk," Williams said last week. "I hired the manager. I hired the general manager." |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Maddon is a baseball God, he doesn't need to input from upstairs. I'm sure Theo loves the pajama party road trips, and the pitcher batting 8th. You're starting to make me question bigfan's decision to let people back. |
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| Author: | newper [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
I couldn't care less who manages the team next year. The players aren't there (or even close to it) so whatever suits the club is fine with me, |
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
newper wrote: I couldn't care less who manages the team next year. The players aren't there (or even close to it) so whatever suits the club is fine with me, That's how I feel too. I think Ventura should have been fired this year, because when you're that bad firing the manager is the first thing you do. But they didn't do it, so now it doesn't matter. There are a lot more important things to worry about with this team than who is going to write out the lineup card. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Do you really think Jim Thome is going to be a great manager?
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Cooper handles the pitching moves, which make up the most crucial decisions a manager makes. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
Hatchetman wrote: Do you really think Jim Thome is going to be a great manager? I think he can spell "Abreu" and "Eaton" as well as most people. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Robin wants to come back in 2016 |
I believe Robin has the worst record in history of any Sox manager who has been allowed to coach for 4+ years. On the flip side, the team has progressed from 63-73-? wins over the past three years. |
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