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Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
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Author:  Kirkwood [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:11 am ]
Post subject:  Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
2013: 63-99
2014: 73-89
2015: 76-86

Progress is being made. By 2020 Sox will likely be hovering around 92 wins and a playoff berth.
Author:  Kirkwood [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
There is an OK core in place.

CF/leadoff - Eaton
DH - Abreu
1SP - Sale
2SP - Rodon
2SP - Quintana

Not really anything left after those 5 but ace, right handed slugger and solid leadoff hitters are hardest to find other than catcher.

Bullpen could be really good and cheap with Fulmer and Montas.

Once you bleed out Danks, Laroche, Duke and Ramirez contracts that's over 30 million to spend on a quality bat(s).
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
I'm happy with 3 SOLID starters.

I'm happy with an elite 1B/DH.

I'm happy with a seemingly young talent like Thompson.

I'm not happy with the Front Office, Coaching Staff, bullpen, or you.
Author:  Kirkwood [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
Compare the Cubs "core" when they were at their lowest point in recent history to the Sox:

2011
1SP: Garza
2SP: Dempster
3SP: Zambrano
SS: Castro
C: Soto
2B: Barney

That's being very generous to say Dempster was a core piece. 4 years later the Cubs now have 3rd best record in baseball. Sox current core is much better than 2011 Cubs.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
Melky Cabrera quietly had a pretty decent season after a horrendous start. I'd like to think Avi Garcia would be better-- as 2015 was only his second full year in MLB-- but 2016 is make or break for him.

I agree with Peeps, but would also add that Saladino looks like he could be a nice piece going forward in the infield. Not a superstar by any means, but he at least looks like a guy that could play good defense and give you some solid offensive production.
Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
Kirkwood wrote:
There is an OK core in place.

CF/leadoff - Eaton
DH - Abreu
1SP - Sale
2SP - Rodon
2SP - Quintana

Not really anything left after those 5 but ace, right handed slugger and solid leadoff hitters are hardest to find other than catcher.

Bullpen could be really good and cheap with Fulmer and Montas.

Once you bleed out Danks, Laroche, Duke and Ramirez contracts that's over 30 million to spend on a quality bat(s).


you missed Eric Johnson as well
Author:  Kirkwood [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
good dolphin wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
There is an OK core in place.

CF/leadoff - Eaton
DH - Abreu
1SP - Sale
2SP - Rodon
2SP - Quintana

Not really anything left after those 5 but ace, right handed slugger and solid leadoff hitters are hardest to find other than catcher.

Bullpen could be really good and cheap with Fulmer and Montas.

Once you bleed out Danks, Laroche, Duke and Ramirez contracts that's over 30 million to spend on a quality bat(s).


you missed Eric Johnson as well

he sucks
Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
I don't know. Cliffs of Dover was pretty solid.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
Eric Johnson will be better than Danks and Shark were this year.
Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
Kirkwood wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
There is an OK core in place.

CF/leadoff - Eaton
DH - Abreu
1SP - Sale
2SP - Rodon
2SP - Quintana

Not really anything left after those 5 but ace, right handed slugger and solid leadoff hitters are hardest to find other than catcher.

Bullpen could be really good and cheap with Fulmer and Montas.

Once you bleed out Danks, Laroche, Duke and Ramirez contracts that's over 30 million to spend on a quality bat(s).


you missed Eric Johnson as well

he sucks


I won't make a pronouncement that he is great but there is a lot of evidence to indicate you are incorrect.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
When you have two very good starters (maybe even 3) you're not too far away from contending
Author:  leashyourkids [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
rogers park bryan wrote:
When you have two very good starters (maybe even 3) you're not too far away from contending


Right, but this thread is about the Sox.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Melky Cabrera quietly had a pretty decent season after a horrendous start. I'd like to think Avi Garcia would be better-- as 2015 was only his second full year in MLB-- but 2016 is make or break for him.

I agree with Peeps, but would also add that Saladino looks like he could be a nice piece going forward in the infield. Not a superstar by any means, but he at least looks like a guy that could play good defense and give you some solid offensive production.



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Author:  Matches Malone [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
badrogue17 wrote:
I don't know. Cliffs of Dover was pretty solid.


Either discovered by Prince or given a larger audience because of him. Can't remember which.
Author:  Brick [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
Life is good.
Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Is Sox Subdivision So Depressed?
It is. I had a weekend jam packed with humble brags
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