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Author:  The 312 [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:19 pm ]
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10. That Big Jim Thompson didn’t screw the taxpayers royally with this last minute deal to keep the Sox from moving to Florida.
9. That the Cell is not one of the worst ballparks in the majors (keep putting lipstick on that pig though).
8. That the area around the park is going to become a destination.
7. That Reinsdorf is a great owner.
6. That Sox fans are the really, really knowledgeable baseball fans in Chicago.
5. That the Ligues are not representative of White Sox fans.
4. That Frank Thomas is not a big pussy.
3. That the 2005 team was not a once in a generation fluke of epic proportions.
2. That it doesn’t matter that the Sox whored themselves out to gamblers and sold the World Series in 1919.
1. That anybody outside of a very small group of South Side inbreds really cares about the Sox at all.

Honorable Mentions:
That Ozzie is a good manger and not a clueless semi-literate clown.
That Kenny has any idea what he’s doing.
That the South Side does not suffer from a Grand Canyon sized inferiority complex when it comes to the North Side.

I await (and will enjoy) the poorly written responses from Sox fans.

Author:  Brick [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:21 pm ]
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The 312 wrote:
2005
2005.

Author:  Hockey Gay [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:23 pm ]
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Great thread, great read.

Author:  SteveSarley [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:24 pm ]
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How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?

Author:  Brick [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:26 pm ]
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SteveSarley wrote:
How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?
For the same reason that Cubs fans think Greg Maddux never did.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:29 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
SteveSarley wrote:
How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?
For the same reason that Cubs fans think Greg Maddux never did.


Large black men cannot be trusted, you should know that.

Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:30 pm ]
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SteveSarley wrote:
How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?


I've always said it is difficult to believe that a person who played SEC football during the roidiest of years hadn't been exposed to them.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:33 pm ]
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he has stated he was exposed to them.

Author:  312player [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:34 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
SteveSarley wrote:
How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?


I've always said it is difficult to believe that a person who played SEC football during the roidiest of years hadn't been exposed to them.




Some guys don't need to put mass on or build muscle, Frank is clean IMO.. Natural career arc and never changed body size..look @ him now, he's a beast.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:42 pm ]
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The 312 wrote:
10. That Big Jim Thompson didn’t screw the taxpayers royally with this last minute deal to keep the Sox from moving to Florida. (and to think, he's a Cubbie fan)
9. That the Cell is not one of the worst ballparks in the majors (keep putting lipstick on that pig though). (It's funny how nice a World Series pennant from within the radio era makes a park nicer)
8. That the area around the park is going to become a destination. (Have you checked recent real estate prices & demographics around there & compared them to 1990 or even 2000)
7. That Reinsdorf is a great owner. (No one except jealous doormat Cubbie fans say that)
6. That Sox fans are the really, really knowledgeable baseball fans in Chicago. (Jealousy & envy, jealousy & envy)
5. That the Ligues are not representative of White Sox fans. (You have your Elmhurst Steves, clowns too drunk to not fall out of the bleachers, and idiots stealing from/fighting Dodger players & we have our Ligues, it's pretty much a wash)
4. That Frank Thomas is not a big pussy. (Spoken like someone with latent issues that need addressing :wink: )
3. That the 2005 team was not a once in a generation fluke of epic proportions. (I bet you cringe each time you have to type 2005)
2. That it doesn’t matter that the Sox whored themselves out to gamblers and sold the World Series in 1919. (That stings. About as much as the '06 [1906], mind you Cubbies choking to the 'Hitless Wonders' in one of the greatest upsets in WS history should bother you. :| )
1. That anybody outside of a very small group of South Side inbreds really cares about the Sox at all. (Or will take the time to levy these pedestrian charges)

Honorable Mentions:
That Ozzie is a good manger and not a clueless semi-literate clown. (What does one have to do with the other?)
That Kenny has any idea what he’s doing. (Maybe not, but he struck gold once. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every so often...I guess unless he wears that stupid "C" hat)
That the South Side does not suffer from a Grand Canyon sized inferiority complex when it comes to the North Side. (Some maybe, but if that possibility makes you happy, I'm happy for you)

I await (and will enjoy) the poorly written responses from Sox fans.

Author:  The 312 [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:04 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
The 312 wrote:
10. That Big Jim Thompson didn’t screw the taxpayers royally with this last minute deal to keep the Sox from moving to Florida. (and to think, he's a Cubbie fan)
9. That the Cell is not one of the worst ballparks in the majors (keep putting lipstick on that pig though). (It's funny how nice a World Series pennant from within the radio era makes a park nicer)
8. That the area around the park is going to become a destination. (Have you checked recent real estate prices & demographics around there & compared them to 1990 or even 2000)
7. That Reinsdorf is a great owner. (No one except jealous doormat Cubbie fans say that)
6. That Sox fans are the really, really knowledgeable baseball fans in Chicago. (Jealousy & envy, jealousy & envy)
5. That the Ligues are not representative of White Sox fans. (You have your Elmhurst Steves, clowns too drunk to not fall out of the bleachers, and idiots stealing from/fighting Dodger players & we have our Ligues, it's pretty much a wash)
4. That Frank Thomas is not a big pussy. (Spoken like someone with latent issues that need addressing :wink: )
3. That the 2005 team was not a once in a generation fluke of epic proportions. (I bet you cringe each time you have to type 2005)
2. That it doesn’t matter that the Sox whored themselves out to gamblers and sold the World Series in 1919. (That stings. About as much as the '06 [1906], mind you Cubbies choking to the 'Hitless Wonders' in one of the greatest upsets in WS history should bother you. :| )
1. That anybody outside of a very small group of South Side inbreds really cares about the Sox at all. (Or will take the time to levy these pedestrian charges)

Honorable Mentions:
That Ozzie is a good manger and not a clueless semi-literate clown. (What does one have to do with the other?)
That Kenny has any idea what he’s doing. (Maybe not, but he struck gold once. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every so often...I guess unless he wears that stupid "C" hat)
That the South Side does not suffer from a Grand Canyon sized inferiority complex when it comes to the North Side. (Some maybe, but if that possibility makes you happy, I'm happy for you)

I await (and will enjoy) the poorly written responses from Sox fans.

Scathing...simply scathing...and in red too...

Author:  Brick [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:07 pm ]
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One of my favorite "Cubbie Nation" things is acting like Theo winning the World Series with the Cubs would be some monumental historic accomplishment and almost certainly propel him to being a hall of fame GM and one of the great stories in sports history.

Yet Kenny did roughly the same thing for the White Sox and it was a fluke. :lol:

Author:  The 312 [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:17 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
One of my favorite "Cubbie Nation" things is acting like Theo winning the World Series with the Cubs would be some monumental historic accomplishment and almost certainly propel him to being a hall of fame GM and one of the great stories in sports history.

Yet Kenny did roughly the same thing for the White Sox and it was a fluke. :lol:

Theo hasn't won anything with the Cubs yet. There is however a very good chance the Cubs will win more than one. Theo did build a team that won two championships in Boston. Look up apples and oranges in the dictionary and you will find a picture of Theo next to a picture of Kenny.

Author:  Brick [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:19 pm ]
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The 312 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
One of my favorite "Cubbie Nation" things is acting like Theo winning the World Series with the Cubs would be some monumental historic accomplishment and almost certainly propel him to being a hall of fame GM and one of the great stories in sports history.

Yet Kenny did roughly the same thing for the White Sox and it was a fluke. :lol:

Theo hasn't won anything with the Cubs yet. There is however a very good chance the Cubs will win more than one. Theo did build a team that won two championships in Boston. Look up apples and oranges in the dictionary and you will find a picture of Theo next to a picture of Kenny.
If Theo wins a championship with the Cubs would it be the same thing as what Kenny did with the White Sox?

Author:  Rod [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:21 pm ]
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The 312 wrote:
There is however a very good chance the Cubs will win more than one.


They haven't won one since before the fucking Model T came out but now they have a good chance to win more than one in the next few seasons. :lol: :lol:

Author:  spmack [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:22 pm ]
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11. The 312 is not a mult.

Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:33 pm ]
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The 312 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
One of my favorite "Cubbie Nation" things is acting like Theo winning the World Series with the Cubs would be some monumental historic accomplishment and almost certainly propel him to being a hall of fame GM and one of the great stories in sports history.

Yet Kenny did roughly the same thing for the White Sox and it was a fluke. :lol:

Theo hasn't won anything with the Cubs yet. There is however a very good chance the Cubs will win more than one. Theo did build a team that won two championships in Boston. Look up apples and oranges in the dictionary and you will find a picture of Theo next to a picture of Kenny.


He built one with the Red Sox. He rode coattails on the first.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:36 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
SteveSarley wrote:
How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?
For the same reason that Cubs fans think Greg Maddux never did.

You need someone better than Maddux for that comparison.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:37 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
One of my favorite "Cubbie Nation" things is acting like Theo winning the World Series with the Cubs would be some monumental historic accomplishment and almost certainly propel him to being a hall of fame GM and one of the great stories in sports history.

Yet Kenny did roughly the same thing for the White Sox and it was a fluke. :lol:

3 titles with two different teams is equal to 1 title with one team?

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:38 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
SteveSarley wrote:
How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?
For the same reason that Cubs fans think Greg Maddux never did.

You need someone better than Maddux for that comparison.


Why? Just like Frank, his body type/mass hasn't changed since he retired. :)

Author:  SteveSarley [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:39 pm ]
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Yep! Those PEDs probably put an extra couple of miles on that 85-mph fastball!

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:40 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
SteveSarley wrote:
How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?
For the same reason that Cubs fans think Greg Maddux never did.

You need someone better than Maddux for that comparison.


Why? Just like Frank, his body type/mass hasn't changed since he retired. :)

Id go with Aramis Ramirez

I mean, maybe Maddux did them. I cant guarantee he didnt but there are better examples.

Author:  Brick [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:41 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
SteveSarley wrote:
How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?
For the same reason that Cubs fans think Greg Maddux never did.

You need someone better than Maddux for that comparison.
No, I don't. Maddux is the perfect comparison.

Feel free to explain why he isn't.

Author:  Brick [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:42 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
One of my favorite "Cubbie Nation" things is acting like Theo winning the World Series with the Cubs would be some monumental historic accomplishment and almost certainly propel him to being a hall of fame GM and one of the great stories in sports history.

Yet Kenny did roughly the same thing for the White Sox and it was a fluke. :lol:

3 titles with two different teams is equal to 1 title with one team?
We are talking about the accomplishment of winning one for the Cubs.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:47 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
SteveSarley wrote:
How about -
"Frank Thomas never used PED's"
I'm not saying he did, but how can Sox fans take it as gospel that he never did?
For the same reason that Cubs fans think Greg Maddux never did.

You need someone better than Maddux for that comparison.
No, I don't. Maddux is the perfect comparison.

Feel free to explain why he isn't.

Bodies.

That is all we have to go on with the absence of a failed drug test.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:49 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
One of my favorite "Cubbie Nation" things is acting like Theo winning the World Series with the Cubs would be some monumental historic accomplishment and almost certainly propel him to being a hall of fame GM and one of the great stories in sports history.

Yet Kenny did roughly the same thing for the White Sox and it was a fluke. :lol:

3 titles with two different teams is equal to 1 title with one team?
We are talking about the accomplishment of winning one for the Cubs.

I think you're misunderstanding what people are saying.

If he won with the Cubs it would be the cherry on top of an already great career (2 more WS titles than most GMs in history)


If someone is out there saying the Cubs title alone would make him a a Hall of Famer, then Ill be on your side in that argument.

Author:  Brick [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:50 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Bodies.

That is all we have to go on with the absence of a failed drug test.
Frank was always big and has stayed big and never got huge either.

So Maddux didn't use because he started off small and stayed small?

Author:  Brick [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:52 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
I think you're misunderstanding what people are saying.

If he won with the Cubs it would be the cherry on top of an already great career (2 more WS titles than most GMs in history)


If someone is out there saying the Cubs title alone would make him a a Hall of Famer, then Ill be on your side in that argument.
There are a lot of people saying that winning one with the Cubs would be a lot more impressive than the average World Series win given the Cubs history. Do you agree with them?

If so, do you also agree that the same is true for the White Sox in 2005?

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:57 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Bodies.

That is all we have to go on with the absence of a failed drug test.
Frank was always big and has stayed big and never got huge either.

So Maddux didn't use because he started off small and stayed small?

I dont know if Maddux used or not.

Frank certainly got bigger. He was always one of the bigger guys but he was bigger in year 15 than year 1

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:59 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
I think you're misunderstanding what people are saying.

If he won with the Cubs it would be the cherry on top of an already great career (2 more WS titles than most GMs in history)


If someone is out there saying the Cubs title alone would make him a a Hall of Famer, then Ill be on your side in that argument.
There are a lot of people saying that winning one with the Cubs would be a lot more impressive than the average World Series win given the Cubs history. Do you agree with them?

If so, do you also agree that the same is true for the White Sox in 2005?

Winning a title is impressive anywhere.

I dont think doing it in a place with a long title drought really changes the accomplishment (although people's perception will be different)

The White Sox from 11 years ago are not necessarily better than the ones from 99 years ago just because they ended a drought.

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