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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Bulls Offseason
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:35 am 
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I take your point about competing for a championship versus being among the 2, 3, or 4 teams that are favorites. I don't agree with you that there aren't any "great" teams in the NBA though. I think our opinion on that may depend on what happens the next couple of weeks though. I'd be scared of the Clippers getting Kawhi back and healthy. Jamal Murray coming back is big for Denver. What can Phoenix do with a sign and trade for Ayton? The Lakers may be a great team if they can replace Westbrook. The West is a strong conference is what I'm saying. So, I guess I'm playing right into what you're saying as far as the East being more open. Giannis is a tough son of a bitch though.

Even with Kawhi the Clippers still will have issues with the 5 position and at point guard. They sort of have some of the same problems that teams like the Bulls and Boston have at the end of games with guys going 1 on 1 all of the time.
The Lakers are finished. Denver will be better with Murray and Porter back but I still don't believe they will be elite.
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I think you're so wrong taking DeRozan over Jaylen Brown. I saw Jaylen, despite his trouble dribbling :lol:, take over during periods of the NBA Finals. I love DeRozan, but again, he scored 11 points in two of those 1st Round games, and that is excluding his disappointing performance in Game 1. He can't shoot 3s either.

One of the reasons he was able to take over games is because so much attention is focused on Tatum of all of the time. Teams stack their defense in order to stop Tatum. I have yet to see and NBA where they do that to stop Brown. And say that as a guy that likes Jaylen Brown
He just isn't a #1 option kind of guy. As far as DeRozan goes, Milwaukee stacked their defense in order to stop him. Particularly After he went off in game 2 of that series. That's why he scored 11 points. During one of the games they actually showed footage of the Bucks loading up on Derozan and daring guys like Ayo, Javonte Brown and even the "explosive" Coby White to beat them and they couldn't. They weren't even guarding Brown and Ayo in the perimeter. That's how bad it got
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I agree with you about Vucevic. Wendell Carter can put up whatever numbers he wants to put up in Orlando. I'll take Vucevic any day. I thought he played well versus Milwaukee. He's not going to defend. I get that. I just wish he shot the ball a little better. And maybe that will happen next season. I just can't stand the thought of having Gobert and Lonzo on the court at the same time.


I agree about Vuc. He is never going to be much of a defender. But he does rebound well. That's one of the reasons I like him actually. I also agree that he has to shoot better. His 3 point shot has sputtered since he joined the Bulls. I think some of it has to do with Tired legs more than anything. As the only "big" to get playing time he is simply being asked to do too much imo. I also think that has to play better against better bigs too. He seems to have a bit of "bumslayer" in him. I hope that this was just a last season thing but I really don't know for sure.
In Orlando the guy was a killer however. I hope he can get back to that this season.

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It's not reasonable for established NBA veterans to step back and allow a 19 year old rookie to get his, especially in the playoffs. Williams has to earn his looks just like all the other non superstars.

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You have to get a top three guy on your roster and have another top 10 type guy.

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It's not reasonable for established NBA veterans to step back and allow a 19 year old rookie to get his, especially in the playoffs. Williams has to earn his looks just like all the other non superstars.


He is going into year 3. That's usually the year that guys take "The step" if there is a step to be taken. They have to allow him to play with more freedom on offense. The very same way that they have allowed bums like Coby White to play with more freedom. If the Bulls are going to take that "next step" then it's going to happen as a result of this kid developing into a special player. That won't happen as long as Donovan continues to allow Derozan, Zach, and even the rather "explosive" Coby White, to continue to play hero ball.

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I would sign and trade LaVine and throw in Patrick Williams, Coby, and a couple 1st Round picks for Durant in a heartbeat.


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I would sign and trade LaVine and throw in Patrick Williams, Coby, and a couple 1st Round picks for Durant in a heartbeat.


That would be a terrible trade for the Bulls and besides I don't think the Nets would go for it anyway There is a ton of tread on Durant's tires at this stage of his career. And all he is going to do is the "Lebron lite" where he starts picking coaches and guys that he wants to play with. The Ners have done nothing but cater to him and his "desires" and all its done is get them Swept out of the first round of the playoffs.

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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Bulls Offseason
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The nets were actually done for when they made kyrie their guy.

Like I said years ago, he can't be that guy. He's nothing without LeBron.

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I would sign and trade LaVine and throw in Patrick Williams, Coby, and a couple 1st Round picks for Durant in a heartbeat.


That would be a terrible trade imo There is lot of tread on Durant's tires at this stage of the career. And all he is going to do is the "Lebron lite" where he starts picking coaches and guys that he wants to play with. The Ners have done nothing but cater to him and his "desires" and all its done is get them Swept out of the first round of the playoffs.


If you don't want him on the Bulls, then the Suns will gladly trade for him and win a championship.


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I would sign and trade LaVine and throw in Patrick Williams, Coby, and a couple 1st Round picks for Durant in a heartbeat.


That would be a terrible trade imo There is lot of tread on Durant's tires at this stage of the career. And all he is going to do is the "Lebron lite" where he starts picking coaches and guys that he wants to play with. The Ners have done nothing but cater to him and his "desires" and all its done is get them Swept out of the first round of the playoffs.


If you don't want him on the Bulls, then the Suns will gladly trade for him and win a championship.


It depends on who they have to give up. If it's Ayton and Booker they aren't winning anything.

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The nets were actually done for when they made kyrie their guy.

Like I said years ago, he can't be that guy. He's nothing without LeBron.

Wake when Lebron can actually win another playoff series by the way.
Boston was pretty good with Kyrie as their best player and if he had any sense he would have remained there and "grew" along with Tatum and Brown.

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The nets were actually done for when they made kyrie their guy.

Like I said years ago, he can't be that guy. He's nothing without LeBron.

Wake when Lebron can actually win another playoff series by the way.
Boston was pretty good with Kyrie as their best player and if he had any sense he would have remained there and "grew" along with Tatum and Brown.


Lbj won after leaving Kyrie

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The nets were actually done for when they made kyrie their guy.

Like I said years ago, he can't be that guy. He's nothing without LeBron.

Wake when Lebron can actually win another playoff series by the way.
Boston was pretty good with Kyrie as their best player and if he had any sense he would have remained there and "grew" along with Tatum and Brown.


Lbj won after leaving Kyrie


No one but you and "LBJ" cares about his tainted championship. They can't even make the playoffs and he is already looking to bail again. No one much cares about what he is "up" to other than you and ESPN apparently.

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I would sign and trade LaVine and throw in Patrick Williams, Coby, and a couple 1st Round picks for Durant in a heartbeat.


That would be a terrible trade imo There is lot of tread on Durant's tires at this stage of the career. And all he is going to do is the "Lebron lite" where he starts picking coaches and guys that he wants to play with. The Ners have done nothing but cater to him and his "desires" and all its done is get them Swept out of the first round of the playoffs.


If you don't want him on the Bulls, then the Suns will gladly trade for him and win a championship.


It depends on who they have to give up. If it's Ayton and Booker they aren't winning anything.


Booker's not going anywhere. I'd imagine the Nets want young pieces, which is why I proposed the idea of LaVine as opposed to DeRozan.

The Suns could offer Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, and three 1st Round picks. If the Nets want Ayton, then you go ahead and say sure -- but you remove Johnson from the offer.

I don't buy how some people are saying this is going to be as large of a package that the Hornets got for AD or possibly larger. No way.


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I would sign and trade LaVine and throw in Patrick Williams, Coby, and a couple 1st Round picks for Durant in a heartbeat.


That would be a terrible trade imo There is lot of tread on Durant's tires at this stage of the career. And all he is going to do is the "Lebron lite" where he starts picking coaches and guys that he wants to play with. The Ners have done nothing but cater to him and his "desires" and all its done is get them Swept out of the first round of the playoffs.


If you don't want him on the Bulls, then the Suns will gladly trade for him and win a championship.


It depends on who they have to give up. If it's Ayton and Booker they aren't winning anything.


Booker's not going anywhere. I'd imagine the Nets want young pieces, which is why I proposed the idea of LaVine as opposed to DeRozan.

The Suns could offer Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, and three 1st Round picks. If the Nets want Ayton, then you go ahead and say sure -- but you remove Johnson from the offer.

I don't buy how some people are saying this is going to be as large of a package that the Hornets got for AD or possibly larger. No way.


Durant is a better player and the only way the Nets go for it is if Ayton or Booker are included. Brooklyn isn't going to trade Durant for a couple of role players and draft picks. They'd demand an All Star caliber player at the very least for Durant.

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The nets were actually done for when they made kyrie their guy.

Like I said years ago, he can't be that guy. He's nothing without LeBron.

Wake when Lebron can actually win another playoff series by the way.
Boston was pretty good with Kyrie as their best player and if he had any sense he would have remained there and "grew" along with Tatum and Brown.


Lbj won after leaving Kyrie


No one but you and "LBJ" cares about his tainted championship. They can't even make the playoffs and he is already looking to bail again. No one much cares about what he is "up" to other than you and ESPN apparently.


Just concede I was right about Simmons and Irving. Both are confirmed biltches.

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The nets were actually done for when they made kyrie their guy.

Like I said years ago, he can't be that guy. He's nothing without LeBron.

Wake when Lebron can actually win another playoff series by the way.
Boston was pretty good with Kyrie as their best player and if he had any sense he would have remained there and "grew" along with Tatum and Brown.


Lbj won after leaving Kyrie


No one but you and "LBJ" cares about his tainted championship. They can't even make the playoffs and he is already looking to bail again. No one much cares about what he is "up" to other than you and ESPN apparently.


Just concede I was right about Simmons and Irving. Both are confirmed biltches.


You didn't seem to have a ton to say about Simmons until after The Atlanta series. How convenient and seeing as the only person you like in the NBA is Lebron James what does it really matter anyway? You think the entire league is made up of ",bitches" when compared to "his highness". You're worse than Bernstein and ESPN when it comes to your love affair with him.
And whatever happened to all of your "just as long as I got Lebron I got enough" declarations over the past 2 seasons? The Lakers bombing spectacularly right now.

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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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I would sign and trade LaVine and throw in Patrick Williams, Coby, and a couple 1st Round picks for Durant in a heartbeat.


That would be a terrible trade imo There is lot of tread on Durant's tires at this stage of the career. And all he is going to do is the "Lebron lite" where he starts picking coaches and guys that he wants to play with. The Ners have done nothing but cater to him and his "desires" and all its done is get them Swept out of the first round of the playoffs.


If you don't want him on the Bulls, then the Suns will gladly trade for him and win a championship.


It depends on who they have to give up. If it's Ayton and Booker they aren't winning anything.


Booker's not going anywhere. I'd imagine the Nets want young pieces, which is why I proposed the idea of LaVine as opposed to DeRozan.

The Suns could offer Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, and three 1st Round picks. If the Nets want Ayton, then you go ahead and say sure -- but you remove Johnson from the offer.

I don't buy how some people are saying this is going to be as large of a package that the Hornets got for AD or possibly larger. No way.


Durant is a better player and the only way the Nets go for it is if Ayton or Booker are included. Brooklyn isn't going to trade Durant for a couple of role players and draft picks. They'd demand an All Star caliber player at the very least for Durant.


I agree, which is why an Ayton, Bridges, and multiple 1sts is offer is perfect. And the Suns window immediately opens back up again.


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I called Simmons a liability before Atlanta. You want to pivot to James to deflect attention away from how Simmons and Irving are bitches like I've always said they are.

James' legacy is set. 4 rings and whatever else he did. I don't need to defend him.

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I agree, which is why an Ayton, Bridges, and multiple 1sts is offer is perfect. And the Suns window immediately opens back up again.

The Nets might go if Durant forces their hand. Durant and Booker and an old Chris Paul might be enough to win it all

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I called Simmons a liability before Atlanta. You want to pivot to James to deflect attention away from how Simmons and Irving are bitches like I've always said they are.

James' legacy is set. 4 rings and whatever else he did. I don't need to defend him.

He never won anything without other "great players" on his roster, which you repeatedly have ignored.
You have claimed that Lebron really doesn't need great teammates in order to win and now you are running away from that statement faster than Carl Lewis at the 84 Olympics.

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I called Simmons a liability before Atlanta. You want to pivot to James to deflect attention away from how Simmons and Irving are bitches like I've always said they are.

James' legacy is set. 4 rings and whatever else he did. I don't need to defend him.

He never won anything without other "great players" on his roster, which you repeatedly have ignored.
You have claimed that Lebron really doesn't need great teammates in order to win and now you are running away from that statement faster than Carl Lewis at the 84 Olympics.


Who's carl Lewis? Those players didn't win anything without lbj. Game set match. Bye.

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Who's carl Lewis? Those players didn't win anything without lbj. Game set match. Bye.


Actually Dwayne Wade did win something "without LBJ", Point proven. See ya!

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I called Simmons a liability before Atlanta. You want to pivot to James to deflect attention away from how Simmons and Irving are bitches like I've always said they are.

James' legacy is set. 4 rings and whatever else he did. I don't need to defend him.

He never won anything without other "great players" on his roster, which you repeatedly have ignored.
You have claimed that Lebron really doesn't need great teammates in order to win and now you are running away from that statement faster than Carl Lewis at the 84 Olympics.


:lol:

Awesome line.

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If the price is right the Bulls should take a flyer and sign Mo Bamba as a restricted free agent. He'd be a solid backup at either the 4 or the 5 spot


Looks as if AK is speaking my language.
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I'm really hoping he gets to jam the hell out of that asshole Kyrie and that crap franchise.

Fuck I despise Kyrie.

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Bamba going back to Magic.

The Bulls are running out of options to add some rim protection.

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Bamba going back to Magic.

The Bulls are running out of options to add some rim protection.


Yeah Bamba would have been good. They might be in play for Proetl from San Antonio. He would be a good get. The problem is that AK is overvaluing Coby White. Looks like he might be back next year as a result

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