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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:56 pm 
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Yeah, blow it up so we can be atrocious again for another six years. Why is it when things aren't going our favorite teams' way the quick solution is to "BLOW IT ALL UP". I've always liked your posts Bulldog, but retarded logic. The East sucks. This team sucks too, but trust me it won't take alot to get this team into the playoffs. I think Paxson's got something up his sleeve; he realizes he's fumbled the ball repeatedly up to this point, but I think something's in the works. Blowing it all up accomplishes nothing, only some tweaks need to be made either throughout the season or in the offseason. I'd rather have this team, then clear them all out and start over with a bunch of nobodies.


Perhaps I was a little too cavalier with my use of the phrase "Blow it up". I don't suggest that they should trade off every asset, but they do need to make a major move if they ever want to be a title contender, even if it means trading 2 or 3 members of the "core". I think that they have enough "assets" where they can make major moves and contend in the near future, not be "atrocious for another 6 years" like you said. My post yesterday was more one of frustration.
The main issue remains that Paxson seems to over value his own guys, so he's less willing to make a deal. Plus, he has less to work with this year in the way of contracts than he did last year to swing a big deal.
Who knows, maybe a new coach will light a fire under these guys and they'll turn it around. As comprised, though, I still don't see them winning a championship or even the East, and I thought that is what it's all about.

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Did I miss the Bulls losing game 7 of the Finals last year or something? For a team hasn't proven anything and has nobody close to being all-star caliber player, they sure are getting the benefit of the doubt.


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I read an article today that made a great point: the Bulls have no stars. Period. How can their inconsistency surprise anyone? Look at any other team that could be considered equally starless as the Bulls, and you'll see that they suck ass as well. I'll repeat what I've said before: if anything, people should recognize the damned miracle it was for this team to have the success they've had. Everyone was all to willing to give the players all the credit in the world for their success, yet, when the success isn't there, suddenly everyone wants to talk about how Skiles isn't getting enough out of them. Enough? Man took a starless team to the playoffs three years in a row. Maybe if Deng would step up and be a star or Gordon would pull his head out of his ass this team wouldn't suck so godawfully.

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Getting fired on Christmas eve, just meant that Skiles could relax on Christmas. Otherwise he would have likely been trying to gameplan for Wednesdays game. Heck, the whole team seemed to be going through the motions, except for Nocioni. Pax must have felt that Skiles no longer had the attention of the team and was unable to motivate them any longer. For Skiles, it means getting paid for 2 1/2 years of labor, while having to do nothing. Sign me up for that gig.


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Just learned about the firing from the board. The only broadcast media I consumed in the last couple days was the Christmas Story Marathon on TBS.

For the last couple years I was more irritated by Pax than Skiles. FG% is hard to coach and it's the GM's responsibility to bring in talent that shoots better. It is also the GM's responsibility to assemble a roster that has multiple scoring threats as well as at least one guy who is absolutely undefendable.

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You can't tell me the Bulls are better off with fucking Pete Myers leading them. The Bulls will end up being an 8 seed in the playoffs. They would have been a 6 seed if Skiles remained. What's the difference? Nothing. It's a first round loss either way.


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MattInTheCrown wrote:
I read an article today that made a great point: the Bulls have no stars. Period.


I was flipping through the AM dial a few months ago on the weekend and Goff was on and he made a pretty decent point that maybe 90% of the time the Bulls play they don't have the best player on the court.


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I can't believe Jerry ate that contract. This is the first I've heard of this and I think it's a terrible move. I asked the question about whether Skiles was an A to B coach but I don't think the Bulls have championship talent. Paxson should have resigned because he is too pussy of a GM to make a real move.


Nas I agree. In my opinion Skiles ranks 3rd on list of who to blame with Paxson finishing one and players finishing two. Does anyone honestly believe this roster is good enough to win an NBA Finals? No. You have to have one legitimate NBA Superstar to win in this league. Nice job scapegoating!

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Wow. I would have said the exact same thing. I'm frightened.


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You got the best boot camp coach and take away the boot camp. No more of his signature marathon practice sessions this year---shift on over to a country club team bringing in mediocre achy breaky veteran role players . 9-17 shouldnt be a surprise.

Skiles was my guy. Work hard, practice hard and bring a no name core of youth to the brink of winning it all. I believe the young core could have matured and eventually gotten over the hump but management keeps on wavering back and forth between " the kids can play--lets go cheap " and "we need big name vets to bring in fans".

When will management have the balls to see " the kids can play" all the way through? Artestt, Brand Curry, Chandler, they let them all get away. All that " Kobe" talk & distractions are as much to blame as well as Pax's bad scouting . Forget the pizazz and bring in the low post scorer like Gasol.

Oh well. merry Christmas, Skiles. your fired. Pax is next.


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should have dealt gordon in the offseason when people still thought he was a big-time scorer; before the league figured him out and started forcing him to put it on the floor.

hinrich went to crap this year but he can be salvaged if he is paired with a guard who can play the point or guard two guards...gordon can't do either.

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Bulldog Scott wrote:
There best bet now is bringing in a coach who will open everything up and let these guys run like crazy, put up monster offensive numbers to boost their trade value.


Interestingly, Boylan is doing just this.


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