I think the Collins hire makes sense for many of the reasons listed above.
Paxson did play for him...so, i'm sure he has a REALLY good idea of what Collins will bring to the team.
for better or worse.

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I think youve said that about 1000 times to me. Either way, does Jerry Sloan have a playoff winning percetnage below .400? Doug Collins isnt good enough to outcoach the better coaches in the league. Thats obvious. What you said in your first sentence is complete speculation. Theres a reason he was replaced. Playoff winning percentage is way more indicative of how good a coach is then regular season winning percentage. Like I said, by your criteria, we should have hired Avery Johnson cuz he's one of the best coaches in NBA history.

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Hey FavreFan...You read my mind. There was an article at SI.com about a week to 10 days ago in which Marty Burns wrote an article suggesting that the Bulls hire another veteran in Phil Johnson and then groom another coach to eventually replace him. The point of the article was that Burns suggested that the Bulls hire the former 1974 NBA Coach of the Year, currently an assistant with the Utah Jazz, and bring in a rising assistant such as former DePaul star Tyrone Corbin to eventually replace him. With today's hiring of Doug Collins as head coach of the Bulls, a similar scenario might become a reality. I don't think Doug wants to coach this team beyond 2 or 3 years, and I really believe this rising assistant will eventually be groomed to replace Doug on the Bulls' bench in due time.

Does anyone else think SHARK is Chet?

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Wasn't Collins fired because players like Grant and Pippen refused to play for him any longer?

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Thats too easy. His Pistons team won 54 games and lost in the first round in 97. You're telling me that the most that team was capable of was losing in 5 games? Now I realize there were alot of really good teams that year, but he didnt advance. The year before he got swept in the first round despite winning 46 games. Those seasons are a microcosm of his coaching ability and career.

Also those Wizards underachieved due in large part to him being completely undermined by unofficial player/coach MJ.

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It's a good hire. I like Collins. I said here that Doug would have won those 3 titles in the early 90s if he wasn't fired.

Will he sport the perm again?

Will he draft Jeffery Jordan in a couple of years? I think that might be Doug's son. That's why he was fired.

Says who?

The story in the media has always been that Grant and Pippen hated him, were leading a rebellion against him, and forced his firing.

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And cuz he was a loser in the playoffs. Did Phil get fired my Dr. Buss for fuckign Jeanie? I think not.

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I'm joking TM.

My comment was for Nas.

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I disagree. Doug never would've forced Michael to defer to his teammates during some of those critical series. Under Doug Collins, Michael was the primary ball-handler and the offense went completely through him (like LeBron's current role), which clearly kept Jordan out of his element. Jordan was not a point guard. Phil had enough knowledge (and balls) to stand up to Jordan and force him to get guys like Cartwright, Pip, and Pax involved. Only then, were they able to begin winning championships.

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Hey, Phil's first year the Bulls lost to the Pistons just like Doug's last year.

Interesting perspective, Kid.

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Didn't Collins get fired at Detroit because he alienated Grant Hill?

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Yes. And he also had issues with J. Stackhouse.

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Doug's last game as a Bulls head coach. Game 6 vs Pistons. 1989
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USoDibfcLtQ

Pippen got hurt and didn't play the 2nd half. They interviewed Doug in this piece at half time. Said we have to run or we can't win.

Nas, you gotta quit with the excuses.

First year: 0-3, swept in the first round
Second year: 4-6 lost in 2nd round
Third year: 9-8 lost in ECF
Four year: 0-3, swept again
Fifth year: 2-3, lost in 1st round
Sixth year: Didnt make playoffs
Seventh year: Didnt make playoffs

He is a career loser in the playoffs. Like I said, if thats your guy, thats fine, but like the Big Tuna says, you are what your record says you are.

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Every job hes had hes gotten fired from, and its always been because of the players.

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Again, I like Collins, but the over-under on his coaching tenure will probably be set at about 140 games.

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Ya know, those Pistons teams were pretty damn good. Doug lost to them back to back years. Phil lost one year.

The Pistons went on to 3 straight Finals - winning 2 of them.

Remember "The Shot" against Cleveland? The Cavs were a 60 win team and the #1 seed that year. Bulls were the 4 or 5 seed. Doug coached the Bulls to that upset.

I'd take the over on that. I think he will last two full seasons. Not sure about any more than that. I wonder if the game has passed him by at all. Happens in football to coaches like Joe Gibbs, although the NFL has evolved a bit more than the NBA in the past twenty years. If I remember correctly in his tenure in Washington there were lots of reports about him not being able to relate to today's players. Also he did a very lousy job developing Kwame Brown. Part of that is MJ's fault, but thats also a flaw in Collins, he doesnt necessarily have a strong backbone. Kwame didnt need to be a bust, alot of it was environmental.

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FF, how old were you when Collins was coaching the Bulls. 5?

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You dont put up a 30-19 in the NBA without some talent. Kwame was/is talented. I think that hes pretty lazy, and that has alot to do with him being a bust, but MJ and Doug did a terrible job developing him. Maybe he would have been a bust either way, but its obvious to alot of people the Wizards did a terrible job handling him. Thats the point I was trying to convey in the NBA section about coming into the league with a winning team in a winning environment. Its possible Kwame's confidence just got so destroyed by how he was treated his first few years in the league, he never really recovered.

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Yeah and Nas I believe is a couple years older than me. Your point being??

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Ok. I stand corrected. Yeah. You're right. Cavs had the 2nd best record but had to be the 3 seed cuz the Pistons won the division. There were only 2 divisions in the East back then.

Still, it was a pretty big upset. Bulls beat them on their home court in the decisive game 5. A 6 seed beating the a 57 win team with the 2nd best record.

I remember a lot of people thought the Cavs would win it that year.

Another great thing about that clinching win in Game 5 was that it came in an era when it was HUGE to win a deciding road game. People think its tough now, but back in the 80's a road win in a playoff game was a really big deal.

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I hear B&B talking about how old Doug is. Oh no. Here comes Grandpa.

I looked it up. He turns 57 in July.

That's not that old. Look at Sloan, Riley, Phil, and Larry Brown. Others have coached in the NBA into their 60s.

B&B would. Doug is definitely not too old to coach.

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