The Bulls have broken down as the season has gone on in many years, and that is keeping Rose out of the equation because those don't really count.

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At some point, don't you have to ask why guys are always hurt on this team? I believe the talent is there to at least be challenging for the conference title year in and year out, but everybody is always hurt. Either the Bull have the worst medical staff in the league, which is quite possible, or Thibs beats these guys up during the season and practice.

I thought last year was the only really underwhelming playoff performance.

Have they lost a series as a favorite?

We overrate them because they are easy to cheer for and play well in the regular season but I really cannot agree that the talent was there. It certainly was not there during the last four years where the Heat reigned.

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What if Rose -- or someone more important that Rose -- gets injured in the second round?

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If they lose to Cleveland in the second round and Rose is playing it is not really an upset. Cleveland is every bit the Bulls equal. If Thibs is the coach every one seems to think he is they should be Cleveland. Rookie coach, inexperienced core, equally matched talent wise in a lot of respects. He should find a way to beat them if there are no major injuries.

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Glad to see all of the fear coming from the Bulls fans, we got this.

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What fear? People are picking the Bulls to sweep!

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Oh there is fear alright, I can see it, I can feel it, I know.

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My guy Josh and the Bucks got this.

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I completely disagree. 2011 was the best shot because Derrick was Derrick -- but you still had Keith Bogans as your starting shooting guard. That was embarrassing. The rosters in 2012, 2013, and 2014, weren't contenders for the East title. 2013 was interesting because you had shot creators in Nate and Marco. This team has always lacked another "guy." That's why Carmelo was their first choice last summer.

If that is the case, then aren't you saying his regular season record is a fluke?

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Marco Bellenelli was not a shot creator. That was a fun postseason because Brooklyn just gave away that first round matchup. They never had a chance of beating Miami.

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Then by the same token, Preds in 5.

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EVERYONE is scheduled to be ready to play saturday

isnt this the first time we had our entire team healthy this year?

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A fluke? No. His regular season record didn't happen by accident. You're worried about playoff results. I am too. Thibs has been here 5 seasons. His team has been to the playoffs every time. His best player was only around for the first playoff run in 2011, where they went to the Eastern Conference Finals. I think Thibs is a great coach. The Bulls won't find a better replacement. It's unfortunate he didn't have Derrick in the postseason the past 3 years. I think even with Derrick, the roster in 2012, 2013, and 2014, wasn't enough to compete with LeBron.

Thibs is a great coach. Firing him will be a mistake.


Would the Bulls have been better with another coach the last three years?

In the playoffs they couldn't have been much worse.

I think until he changes his style that we'll discover that Thibs is a great coach in December and January and not so much 11 months later when the playoffs start.

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Actually, Im not as sure as I made it sound.


I definitely think Thibs could learn a thing or two from Pop and how he rests guys and has them peak when it matters, but I still think he's a great coach.


If Rose stays healthy, I think they go to the ECF 2 of the last three years.

I'm rolling with you Rick but the Bulls have finished about where they were supposed to finish during the playoffs. There really haven't been any upsets unless one counts the actual series that Rose was injured. That would be the Philly series.

I'm with you but I have to differ on The lack of playoff success being Thibs fault. They didn't have the talent to win anything but you don't base your conclusions on talent you base them on results. I learned that during the Carmelo debates. The Bulls best roster has been this yr that is why it has been maddening to watch their performance. This was a 55-57 win team even with the injuries. Look at some of the teams they lost to during the regular season. Thibs has to own some of that.

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Maybe not upsets, but they've been outclassed pretty much last four years besides the Philly series which they still lost.

My point is that you can't be called a great coach when you suddenly aren't once the playoff hits.

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Dude. How many times do you need to be told that Thibs hasn't had his best player on the floor in the playoffs since 2011? Do you think they should have gone to the finals every damn time?

This is the Brick logic. Results trumps talent. I learned it the hard way.

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Dude. Stop calling him a great coach and I will.

If he simply needs the best player to win then he isn't.

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So did Carmelo.

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Whatever man.

Every coach needs good players. Just like every great player needs a supporting cast. Look at how much whining LeBron did prior to the trade. And he had Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving. That was my basic argument with the Melo loser stuff and the entire board poohed poohed as excuse making. I won't knock Thibs for losing to teams that he is supposed to lose to. I will criticize him for this yrs performance and certain things that I have seen from him during the last 4 yrs.

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Yeah, but people are calling him a great coach.

He has a lot of regular season success but he has work to do to prove he is a great coach.

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HE IS A GREAT COACH.

Since Roses return this has been the 1st time I have seen him go to the hole with that quickness and confidence since his MVP year.....Cavs watch your ass .Bulls
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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

who is the great coaching winning without the great player

A great coach is the one who maximizes the production of his talent. Look at the playoffs losses. How often has he lost as a favorite?

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