So Wade is our best player this year?

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Shit, do you think anyone on the bulls is doing better than Gabrielle union? Of course he is!!

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Vegan you always focus on the coaching and I think that's where you go wrong. Gentry is a better coach than his record. They plan to put Holiday at the 2. Smart move. Gentry is also the guy that installed the offense that G.S. uses. The Pelicans will be a play off team this year.

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Gotta think this puts the Pelicans on Golden State's level now

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Taj is a better player than his stats and leadership suggest.

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Pelicans will be better than the Wolves next year. That should never happen when a team has Thibs Jimmy Taj on it. That is as winning a combination as has ever been assembled in the league.

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And it won't. Pelicans won't finish within five games of Minnesota

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They will be better just like they were better last year. Unlike the Wolves they have two legitimate top 10 players on their team.

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The Pelicans had a worse record after they traded for Cousins.

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Gentry effect

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Gentry was the coach before the trade as well.

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Sucked before the trade sucked after. Point is he isn't the guy to take that team to the next level.

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Yeah but that still has no bearing on the fact that the Cousins trade made the team worse. That's relevant to what ltg was saying when comparing it the Wolves(who are clearly better after trading for Butler)

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When has Alvin Gentry ever had a team that was considered next level?

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You think he has two top 10 players. What more do you want?

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It was worse than the Wolves before hand and better afterwards. Too small of a sample size.

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I actually think the trade made them better but Gentry can't do anything about it. Demote him to assistant coach, hire a qualified HC, and then i think you have something. Gentry will be on the hots eat by the ASG next year, if not fired, because the Pelicans will be at or below 500.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
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If the Wolves are better than the Pelicans this season and Butler/Cousins put up similar numbers to last year, are you going to admit you are wrong about which player is better?

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I want to let the season play out Butler won't put up numbers like that with Minnesota anyway.

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It's a simple question. Why are you afraid of committing to an answer?

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I'd have to say he was better. Butler won't put up similar numbers because he won't be allowed to dominate the ball.

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Yeah, about that ....

https://pippenainteasy.com/2017/10/04/chicago-bulls-agreed-deal-milos-teodosic-jimmy-butler-trade/

According to Nick Lotsos, the agent of current Los Angeles Clippers guard Milos Teodosic, the Chicago Bulls and his client had agreed to a three-year deal before the Bulls decided to trade away Jimmy Butler.

Before this season, Milos Teodosic was considered by many as the best basketball player in the world that wasn’t playing in the NBA. His dazzling display on a nightly basis of crisp passing and sharp shooting has made him one of the world’s most enjoyable players.

Over the summer, the Chicago Bulls were considered one of the front-runners to sign Teodosic after the 30-year-old guard wanted to leave CSKA Moscow and join the NBA. After all, Chicago has a big Serbian community and they would adore Teodosic in the Windy City.

But, the plans fell through and Teodosic ended up with the Los Angeles Clippers. How did things come about?

According to Nick Lotsos, the agent that represents Teodosic, he met and discussed matters with the Bulls, but it was the Jimmy Butler trade that changed everything.

Eurohoops.net had the exclusive interview with Lotsos.

“I met in Treviso, Italy, the head of international scouting Ivica Dukan, who is the man who took Toni Kukoc to Chicago. His opinion has a real value within the Bulls organization. He is practically the No. 3 decision maker on the team. We talked and he said to me that Milos was the best player they could get. After a few days the GM, Gar Forman, called me. We had agreed to a contract close to $30 million for three years, similar to the one Bogdan Bogdanovic signed in Sacramento. My only objection was that I wanted Milos to have the chance to opt out every summer, because I believe that he can get All-Star money. We were ready to sign and Forman wanted the deal for one more reason. There are many Serbs in Chicago.”

A quick recap:

[*] Ivica Dukan is one of the most respected names in the Bulls organization. He’s truly responsible for the likes of Toni Kukoc and Nikola Mirotic becoming Bulls in their careers. To hear that he’s seemingly “the No. 3 decision maker on the team” isn’t shocking.
[*] Teodosic getting three years and $30 million basically translates to one-year, $10 million each year because if the Bulls actually gave him the chance to opt-out, that’s what the deal would’ve been.
[*] Gar Forman isn’t wrong about Serbia and Chicago. All you’d have to do is watch when Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets came to town last year to see that.

“I knew that the deal will not be completed after the trade,” Lotsos said after the Bulls traded Butler, via Eurohoops.

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