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 Post subject: Re: Boozer?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:12 pm 
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So is this deal pretty much dead now?


Thank god.


Yeah no need for this team to get a scoring option on the front court and in better position for 2010 :roll:


How does this put the team in a better position for 2010?


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
How does this put the team in a better position for 2010?

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 Post subject: Re: Boozer?
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It would give the Bulls $35-$39M to spend next summer even if the salary cap goes down as projected. That would put them in position to sign 2 full boat guys and some fillers.


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It would give the Bulls $35-$39M to spend next summer even if the salary cap goes down as projected. That would put them in position to sign 2 full boat guys and some fillers.



But that is only if Boozer doesn't work out, correct? And if he doesn't work out, how long will the team wait to determine that? I just don't feel that signing the guy and gambling that one year will work out is worth the risk.


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 Post subject: Re: Boozer?
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If he does not work out, then you don't resign him and you have the money available to sign 2 guys. If he does work out, then you still have the money to add another top level guy with him. How is there a down side? If Boozer sucks, then you have him for one year and are done with him.

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 Post subject: Re: Boozer?
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If he does not work out, then you don't resign him and you have the money available to sign 2 guys. If he does work out, then you still have the money to add another top level guy with him. How is there a down side? If Boozer sucks, then you have him for one year and are done with him.


If he works out, then all that means is we were able to squeeze a good year out of a player that has been constantly injured in his past. Then the front office will sign a fellow top-level player, only to eventually lose Boozer (because there is no way we get two straight solid years from him, IMO) and are now stuck with one player instead of two.

I dunno, I guess if the Bulls are comfortable with the risk then this is a moot point. I still contend, however, that there are cheaper players out there with similar skill and less injuries.


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 Post subject: Re: Boozer?
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
If he works out, then all that means is we were able to squeeze a good year out of a player that has been constantly injured in his past. Then the front office will sign a fellow top-level player, only to eventually lose Boozer (because there is no way we get two straight solid years from him, IMO) and are now stuck with one player instead of two.

I dunno, I guess if the Bulls are comfortable with the risk then this is a moot point. I still contend, however, that there are cheaper players out there with similar skill and less injuries.

There is zero risk with this move. He will only be here for one year, everyone knows that. If he sucks, that's okay, you have a good size expiring contract. If he's good, that's okay too. Maybe the Bulls can make a little noise and gain a little playoff experience.

This team will probably have a similar finish as last year, no one is expecting a championship run, it's all about 2010. Bringing in Boozer will help our chances at acquiring two big name guys. This is a no lose situation.

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Latest has Boozer going to Miami and then Odom will sign with them as well. He'll make less then the 9 mill LA offered so that doesn't make much sense but it would make for a great, 2,3,4 combo for the Heat and the East would be even more stacked.


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 Post subject: Re: Boozer?
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Latest has Boozer going to Miami and then Odom will sign with them as well. He'll make less then the 9 mill LA offered so that doesn't make much sense but it would make for a great, 2,3,4 combo for the Heat and the East would be even more stacked.

:cry: Rose will have to be God in order for us to have a chance in the next 3-5 years.


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Carlos Boozer said Monday that he and the Jazz have "mutually agreed" to a trade, and it would be "a beautiful thing" if he wound up reunited with Olympic teammate Dwyane Wade on the Heat.

"We first came here for tax reasons and fell in love with it," Boozer told The Miami Herald. "We love the palm trees, the laid-back attitude, the sun, quality of life. It's like paradise here, and I would love to be part of the Heat. They're a very good team, and I'm real close to some of the guys. Dwyane and I started to get close at the Athens Olympics in 2004, and I'd love to play on his team. Plus, I already live here. I'm just waiting to see what happens."


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"When I model it, adding Boozer does surprisingly little for the Heat's chances this year -- they already have a power forward who scores and doesn't defend, and Michael Beasley should be able to improve quite a bit on last year's output. Ditto for Lamar Odom, who is essentially a pure 4 in today's NBA.

If the Heat had another move up their sleeve involving Beasley that might change the picture substantially, but the two positions Miami really needs help are point guard and small forward; merely adding Boozer and Odom wouldn't change the picture on either front."


Odom would be some help to the small forward spot. I don't agree that he's a natural four. He is able to play both spots.

Boozer would help most team in need of another offensive punch.

I agree with his lack of defense assessment.


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