So you like the pick?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

And your statement depends on who you read

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

“I like that he believes in himself.”

His notable trait is he isn’t self loathing.

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I actually like it. I have always been partial to big point guard types and it seems like this guy is that. Seems a bit curious because they sort of have that with Ayo but maybe this kid is better than Ayo. He is a couple of inches taller and seems to be more of a natural point than Ayo.

I wanted them to draft a center or wing defender but the bigs I had targeted were all gone by 18. The key to everything will be moving Coby White. He might bring a backup big in return or a 3/4 type wing defender. They have to move him now.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

3 of the 5 people on his own site actually had him going about where he ended up getting drafted .

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/moc ... kyle-boone

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I'm not against it considering what was on the board at the time.

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Do you think White can actually bring back a guy with legitimate value?

What is the point of this team? If they can’t execute a Gobert trade, they’ll be a low seed, 1st round exit again - maybe 2nd round if everything breaks right. They need a reset. Launch Vuc, maybe sign & trade Lavine…

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Coby White should be able to bring in a backup big and considering that MANY here were REALLY REALLY high on him as late as last season that really isn't too much to add. Contrary to popular (CFMB) belief the Bulls roster isn't trash. They had 2 All Stars on their roster last year after all. What they need is size so that they can match-up with the bigger teams in the league. A rotational big or 2 and they will be good to go.

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Good to go for what?

Which rotational big puts them on par with Boston, Miami, Milwaukee…

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None of those teams are juggernauts. Maybe to you but not to anyone else. A Javale Mcgee type off the bench would work wonders for the Bulls. Or even a MO Bamba. And a hybrid 3/4 type off the bench as well. There is more parity in the NBA than there has ever been. There are no "superteams". Maybe you think there are but you are wrong. Every team has noticeable flaws which means they are all beatable. And that includes the 3 teams you just named.

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EJ Liddell to New Orleans at #41. Was hoping that the Bulls got a 2nd to draft him.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

So you think if this Bulls team signs Mo Bamba, they’ll be competitive for a championship. Am I understanding that correctly?

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They'll contend for a conference finals appearance. They need depth in the frontcourt.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

With a couple of additional bench pieces yes. Did you actually pay attention to the NBA Finals or are just praying that the Bulls can go out and trade for Kevin Durant like that idiot Twitter Feed?

Do you actually know that Andrew Wiggins, Otto Porter, Robert Williams and AL Horford were starting games in the NBA Finals? Would you have predicted this last season? Or any season in the past 5 seasons? That alone should tell you that it doesn't take nearly as much to be a "contender" these days as you seem to think.

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seems like the kind of pick they used to make at the end of first rounds during the championship years

I would have taken Malaki Branham at that spot

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Sports Illustrated has him as one of the top 5 "steals of the draft".

https://www.si.com/nba/2022/06/24/2022- ... -ej-lidell

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It still takes Steph Curry, Giannis, LeBron, Kawhi, or Kevin Durant to win. Those were the best players on the court in each of the last 5 NBA Finals.

You could replicate what Boston has done but I didn't see DeRozan and Lavine each put up 20+ points consistently versus the Bucks. DeRozan scored 11 points twice in that series. In addition to those two shitty performances, he shot horribly in a winnable Game 1. You need DeRozan and LaVine to be more like what Tatum and Brown did.

I'm interested in seeing what a Bulls defense would look like with Gobert. That would be a lot of fun to watch. I did just realize this morning that Lonzo cannot score a 2-point basket. I forgot about this because he was out so damn long. Gobert can't score a 2-point basket either. I guess there's ways to work around that but me no likey. That's a little scary. It's why I pray looking at my idiot Twitter feed that the Bulls will somehow end up with Durant

If that pick was made by GarPax, I would be worried. But this regime seems to know what they are doing.

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But you can't just scrap the season because you don't have those 5 guys however. Lebron has missed the playoffs 2 of the 4 years he has been in L.A. and got bounced in the first round in another season.. And there were a number of seasons that guys like Giannis flamed out too. Until they grabbed Jrue Holiday. And Durant was Swept out of the first round this season. By a Boston team that I was told was garbage only this past season. And the biggest problem in that Bucks series for the Bulls wasn't really scoring. It was defending. They had 6'3 Javonte Green checking 7'0 foot Giannis in a playoff series. Why? Because they had no one outside of the Paw that could take the assignment on the roster. You can't go into a another season with that being your primary strategy. The Bulls biggest issue is interior defense and rebounding. It was especially glaring in that Milwaukee series in fact. Milwaukee went big and just murdered the Bulls because they had no answer defensively. And because they had to collapse on the freak all of the time that allowed bums like Grayson Allen to get wide open jump shots all series long. Bobby Portis as well.

The Bulls need guys that are good at protecting the rim and rebounding. They have enough offense. Those guys do not necessarily have to be starters either. They just have to be guys that can match-up defensively with other teams and their bigs once you reach the playoffs. No more small ball garbage.

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Yep I think so too. They have an eye for talent. The only problem for me is that they are swaying too far towards smaller players. They have a glut of guards on the roster and I'm really really beginning to think that this is by design more than circumstance. They have to get more size or else everything becomes moot.

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I still believe you need a superstar on your team to win a championship. LeBron was the best player in 2020. He missed the playoffs in some of his LA years because of injuries to Anthony Davis. That has nothing to do with him winning the Finals in 2020 though. He was the best player. Giannis put up 50 points to clinch in Game 6 last year. He was the best player on the court. Durant is playing with a bunch of scrubs in Brooklyn but he was the best player on the court when he was with Golden State. Steph Curry was the best player in this past series. Tatum and Brown tried their damnedest but it wasn't enough to beat Curry. Tatum and Brown are excellent players and they're absolutely better than DeRozan and LaVine. That was my point.

Good luck with Lonzo and Gobert on the court at the same time. Again, the defense would be fun to watch but jesus christ, neither dude can create their own 2 point bucket.

if you're a non free-agent destination franchise outside a contending window in 2022-2023 and you're not tanking for Wembanyama, you're doing it wrong.

They’re just not good enough. There are at least 3 teams in the East who’ll outclass them on both sides of the ball…probably a couple others who are just better. It’s not quite the basketball hell B&B used to note, but role players and backups don’t make this team competitive. It’s a pipe dream to think they’re a backup 4/5 away from the conference finals.

We’re talking about a team that scored 80 points in a playoff game.

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Drafting a 19 yr old guard in the 2 yr window?

Or is it getting a steal at 18 with the future being down the road and NOT a two yr window?

We are only 1 year removed from the Atlanta Hawks being in the Eastern Conference Finals. Even if we allow for Ice Cold Trae to be a star, he isn't a Superstar. Before that it was Jimmy Butler taking the Heat to the Finals. Again a "star" but not a superstar player. My guy Tatum is a star but he isn't a superstar and I would take Derozan over Jalen Brown every day of the week.. The question is whether the Bulls can compete for a championship. Not whether they are favorites to win a championship.
There are no "great" teams in the NBA these days. G.S. isn't a great team. Milwaukee isn't a great team and neither is Phoenix or Dallas. How can you be considered "great" when your 2nd best player is Andrew Wiggins? They are a good team and so are the Bulls. This is all you need to be in order to be a "contender" in today's NBA.

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Atlanta got to the Conference Finals last year with a roster much worse than what the Bulls have now.

Miami isn't better on offense than the Bulls and neither is Milwaukee.

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Boston was a #1 defense. GS #2. Bulls direct lay up lines and matchup horribly against good teams because of it.

LTG, if you aren't worried about the Bulls offense, why did they average 95 a game in the playoffs? 16 pts below their average.

Calling the 6 seed Basketball White Sox isn't frivolous. It's more than likely on the money.

The Bulls have good-great wing defenders. What they don't have is a good interior defender.

1. No point guard. Bulls only point guard on the roster hadn't played since January 2. Lavine's knee was shot by the time the playoffs rolled around.

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People in this thread are forgetting that Zach Lavine played injured since before the ASG. That allows teams to take away DeRozan because Lavine isn't a threat.

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