You probably were advocating for Hinrich a few weeks ago also. Now you are resorting to last yr when Snell was a rookie. Moore has been in the league for four yrs and this is at least his third team. There is a reason for that. He isn't good. The fact that it took four yrs to have a career game demonstrates that. Snell has had at least five such games after I stated that he should play more. Moore avg. 2 points a game. He was playing in front of Snell and should not have been. You can continue to argue the point because that is kind of what you do but its obvious at this point that he should not have played in front of Snell.

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What? They play different positions.

Does Gasol play in front of Snell as well?

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They both are wing players but they play different positions? Its a futile argument because your basketball acumen is limited. Once Thibs finally realized that Snell should play Etwaun Moore began receiving DNP's. That illustrates that they play the same position. Snell received minutes that had previously been reserved for Moore. If Moore is not a wing then what is he? a point?

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You think E'Twaun Moore is a wing?

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He is a 2 or 3. Snell is a 2 0r 3 thus they are essentially interchangable. Moore is definitely not a point that is my point. If he were then I would suggest that they play different positions

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He has never played the 3 in his life. Ever.

E'Twaun Moore is a combo guard. For the Bulls, 90% of his minutes come at the point. Notice that when he shares the floor with either Brooks or Hinrich, Moore is running the point. Moore is also the one guarding the opposing point guard, as he has done so well against Westbrook a couple of times this season. E'Twaun Moore was signed by the Bulls as insurance at the PG position.

Please read this article:

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/bulls-add ... duct-moore

He was drafted out of Purdue as a PG. He played a bit of SG in Orlando, mostly out of necessity due to the roster.

Are you going to disagree with an NBA writer, Gar Forman, and E'Twaun Moore himself?

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He guards westbrook because Westbrook is too big for Brooks. I never see Moore running the point. He may not be a three but he has played the three position during the crazy lineups that Thibs throws out there. If Moore is a point guard then he is fourth on the depth chart. He was receiving minutes as the fourth best point guard on the team? Snell was receiving DNPs even as Dunleavy and McDermott were injured. This is of course If I am to use your logic. none of the other point guards were injured at the time So why was he in the game as the fourth best point guard on the team. That is of course because he wasn't playing much point. He wasn't running the team he was on the wing. He was guarding a lot of two guards and some small forwards.

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On Etwaun Moore's player profile page they have him listed as a shooting guard.

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I see PG/SG, G, and SG depending on the website. But I don't need websites to tell me what position he plays, as I watch basketball games.

E'Twaun Moore was the fourth PG on the depth chart. This is why he had so many DNP when Rose was healthy. Please check how many games Rose, Hinrich, Brooks, and Moore all received minutes in, excluding blowouts. I look forward to the answer.

E'Twaun Moore has guarded zero small forwards this season, or in any season, unless there was a mismatch or the Bulls were playing a zone.

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I see PG/SG, G, and SG depending on the website. But I don't need websites to tell me what position he plays, as I watch basketball games.


Apparently you don't watch much because there are not many teams that utilize or even have a fourth point guard on their roster. He has played far more shooting guard than he has point and during the period that both Dunleavy and McDermott were out he was playing some at the three. If you can't go by his listed position then what can you go by. The guy was obviously taking minutes away from a guy that is clearly a better player. A number of his DNP's occurred once Snell began receiving regular time.

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Butler and Snell were playing most of the 2 and 3 when Dunleavy and McDermott were out. Mirotic saw some time there as well. Not Moore.

There is nothing left to discuss with you. You're the laughing stock of NBA posters on this board. You've been proven wrong about many subjects on this board. Things that aren't even opinions and things that cannot be debated. Simple facts. I thought I could "fix you", that maybe you were just misguided or angry at Nas and therefore not really thinking about your posts. This is not the case.

You truly do not know basketball. You may be a fan...maybe a huge fan...but you simply don't follow the sport enough to go toe to toe with folks on a sports message board. Maybe you dominated Yahoo Sports article commentors, but that is a different arena.

I'll leave you with one last thing:

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nba/1884/etwaun-moore



Funny how accurate they were, no?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1032 ... nba-career

This is another article talking about how he would need to develop as a PG instead of a SG to retain an NBA career because of his size. I'd think if he is too small to play SG, he is certainly to small to play the 3, no?

http://pippenainteasy.com/2015/03/06/et ... ner-video/

Just another article discussing "Bulls' point guard E'Twaun Moore."

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You found a quote where the guy played point guard during the beginning of the season. The fact remains that a lot of his DNPs occurred once Snell began receiving playing time. Laughing stock of this board my ass. With all the stupid shit that is posted by Stupid motherfuckers like you it is a wonder I even engage your dumbass. That is what makes me an idiot. You used some stupid ass advanced stats shit to further your cause. Moore was playing in games even while Rose was not injured. Maybe you would have noticed that had you actually been watching the game. Moore has not been running the team. The only time he gets minutes at point is when both Hinrich and Rose are injured otherwise he is off the ball. Snell is more of a two than he is a three and Butler is more of three than he is a two. I forgot you watch the gms. You say a lot of stupid shit. The mere fact that you had to resort to advanced stats to justify playing a guy that avg two points a game says a lot about what you know about the game. I forgot you watch the game. Snell wasn't even playing dumbass that is why I started the thread in the first place. Did I forget to mention that you watch. i will not reference Nas because he doesn't post here anymore. Im not a classless motherfucker. You on the other hand If I were to go through all of the dumb shit that you routinely spew we would really see who the laughingstock is.

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Tell you what... find a few board members to back up your thoughts. See if you can find anyone that agrees with your analysis of which Bulls play what positions. This thread isn't going anywhere. I mean...if I'm so off my rocker and you're clearly correct, this should be easy to accomplish.

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The Bulls play the Pacers on Weds. I will watch to see which position he plays. No disrespect to the people that post here but I don't look for validation from them. I would be waiting two lifetimes for that. I have proven a number of things and there is always silence whenever I am right about something.

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Those words that get tossed around when you talk about playing D, do not exist within Rose. That should be abundantly clear to anyone with their head attached correctly. They did/do within guys like Deng and Butler and that's the difference.

You can lead a Derrick Rose to water. Actually, you probably cant even do that anymore between minute restrictions and his little cabal.


Thibs is absolutely part of the problem. But how we are sitting here scratching our heads as to how and why a dysfunctional relationship has poisoned the well to this extent, with a guy in the front office who punches people and cant seem to have a functioning relationship with any coach he hires, is beyond me. It should be clear as to what/who the issue is. And if people wont accept that history, perhaps they can accept the history of a team that valued drafted talent too much and were always one move away.

Whatever path you choose the result is the same. This front office blows.

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"Mattress technology has come a long way"

- Dan Bernstein, 2016

Tony Snell has been starting at shooting guard for the Bulls. If you don't believe me just look at any of the game threads started by St. Louis Bull Man. He and Etwaun Moore don't play the same position though. Etwaun Moore has been functioning as a shooting guard from the moment he signed with the Bulls. He doesn't run plays.
In fact if you read the scouting report by NBA Draft.Net it clearly stated that Etwaun Moore is not a point guard. I don't care what they list him as he hasn't functioned as a point. I DVR'd the game against the thunder and when he entered the game he was playing off the ball and hinrich was running the point.
This was another one of the rather frivolous arguments that all too often permeate this place. Too many lightweights posting on here these days. When I first subscribed here you actually had people that knew what they were talking about. Now there are people that merely argue for the sake of arguing.

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Half the draft sites had him profiled as a PG. ESPN Insider still has that draft profile posted.

And here is some more:

http://cityonthetake.com/chicago-bulls- ... aun-moore/

http://www.chatsports.com/chicago-bulls ... 2-11207722

bullsnation.net/tom-thibodeaus-point-guard-university/ <----( add http:// in front to get this to be a link, I had a maximum of only 3)

And finally...your boy and Hall of Fame writer Sam Smith calling E'Twaun Moore a point guard:

http://blogs.bulls.com/2015/03/bulls-wi ... -clippers/

edit: I think you need to look up the term "combo guard"

The Bulls have had SEVERAL of them over the last decade.

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I DVR games I don't need to read an article. During his career game he was off the ball. I have watched a number of Bulls games and he rarely if ever sets up the offense. Once Snell began playing he started sitting. You must be blind ignorant or dumb. The likelihood is that you are a little of each. He is usually running along the baseline or on the wing somewhere. Point guards originate the offense. The term combo guard is often thrown out there for guys that really don't have a position. If you want I can you the name of a number of players that fit this description. Moore really doesn't have a position either. He is not a point guard just watch him play for a change. He doesn't handle it well enough to be a point and doesn't make enough of plays for the position. If you really know the game you would know that. The bulls don't utilize him as a point guard either. John Paxson was also listed as a point guard doesn't ever mean that he ever was a point guard. Watch the game for a change and maybe you will become enlightened.

You're the same guy that stated that Lance Stephenson would be the best Bulls guard since Jordan. How is that working for you? As far as seeking the opinion of fellow board members forget it. That's a losing battle and not necessarily because I am wrong. Snell has clearly demonstrated that he deserved to play. This opinion was supported by people that follow the Bulls. Snell has played better than either Hinrich or Moore. Before you resort to the they don't play the same position excuse again let me save you from embarrassment. Hinrich was starting a number of games alongside Derrick Rose during the pd. in which this thread was originated. Snell only began playing once Hinrich became injured. Snell played very well which meant that Moore's minutes were reduced as well. While you're busy doing research check that out. I am light yrs ahead of you when it comes to the game of basketball.
I love the herd mentality that permeates this board. The bias exhibited is truly something to behold. Let me give you an example of what I am talking about. Josh Smith and Carmelo Anthony are bashed repeatedly around here. Lance Stephenson is given a pass for both being an asshole and a bust as a player. Why? because most of the people on here including you, were clamoring for his services. They are also anti Smith and Anthony. Josh Smith and Carmelo Anthony have both played better than Lance Stephenson. It is not even close. He has stunk the joint up from the beginning of the season until now. There has been very few references regarding he garbage ass because most of the people including you would have to admit that you got it wrong. Rather than do that it is simply easier to bash guys that have had better careers and better seasons. It is from this group that I am supposed to get an accurate assessment? Thanks but I will pass on that one.

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My username is made up of 3 letters - I can see how you'e be confused.

Only about which poster I am. I have no idea how you came up with the rest.

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I thought you and he are one and the same. I think someone else also made the same mistake. You probably are that guy. Maybe bigfan banned you and you resorted to using another name. If you are not him that I stand corrected but that is an honest mistake. You claim to watch the game but its obvious that you don't. Moore has been used primarily off the ball the term combo guard at this stage is rather generous. He has functioned as a wing player meaning that he is either a 2 or 3 the way the Bulls have it configured. He has been used primarily as a 2 but Tony Snell is mostly a 2 thus he was stealing minutes away from Snell. He should not have been. To demonstrate how people twist things around here. You commented about Snell being a great shooter in the quote function. I never said that he was a great shooter. I only pointed out how he should be playing over Moore and Hinrich. You stated that they don't play the same position. It is obvious that they do. When Snell started receiving minutes Moore's minutes were reduced. You have not provided any explanation as to why Moore should be playing ahead of Snell. That was my original point. Once it became obvious that Snell should play you resorted to making it about something else. You're a rank amateur.

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You could not find two more different guys, Nas and myself.

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5 lines! Sini Rule #1324fdsn101-A

That is all. Carry on.

Racist!

No now you are getting it wrong I believed that you were the Imessed17 guy. I thought you were using abbreviations. He stated Lance was the best 2 since Jordan.

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I am immessedup17. I went by IMU, so it was changed to IMU.

The post you're referring to was sarcasm. You've been on this board since 2007.

There is A LOT of sarcasm.

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There's rumors out there that Billy Donovan is looking to make a jump to the NBA coaching circuit. If the Bulls fail this postseason, which is almost certainly inevitable, I'd like to see them launch Thibs and make a run at Donovan. His connections to Noah should help the Bulls make the big-sell to him.

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Ehhhhhhh

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What if he wusses out at the last second again like he did with Orlando?

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Orlando is a dead-end franchise. Nobody wants to go there.

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Why do you suppose a college coach would thrive with a veteran-heavy roster such as ours?

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