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Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Denzel Valentine |
Kid looks like he can play. I see MVP titles and Finals trophies in his future. |
Author: | Matches Malone [ Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
Let's hope he's not Pat Riley. The Bears version that is. |
Author: | Scooter [ Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
NBA blows and so do the Bulls. Going to take a complete dead Jerry and Gar Pax shitcanning to fix this mess. |
Author: | Kirkwood [ Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
Quote: K.C. Johnson (@KCJHoop) 15 mins ago - View on Twitter Told Bulls are keeping Denzel Valentine. He was second-highest player on their board behind Kris Dunn. Perhaps the the Bulls should examine their scouting process? |
Author: | DannyB [ Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
I like his game. Has a chance to be one the top 2 or 3 Valentines ever. |
Author: | Jbi11s [ Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
Kirkwood wrote: Quote: K.C. Johnson (@KCJHoop) 15 mins ago - View on Twitter Told Bulls are keeping Denzel Valentine. He was second-highest player on their board behind Kris Dunn. Perhaps the the Bulls should examine their scouting process? This tells you all you need to know about how Bulls brass values drafting young prospects. Pathetic. |
Author: | Hussra [ Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
DannyB wrote: I like his game. Has a chance to be one the top 2 or 3 Valentines ever. |
Author: | jimmypasta [ Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
This is the guy Speigs wanted the Bulls to draft. I think he might make a great role player. |
Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
jimmypasta wrote: This is the guy Speigs wanted the Bulls to draft. We're fucked. |
Author: | jimmypasta [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
The Bulls used their final pick in the 2016 NBA Draft on German small forward Paul Zipser. The 6-foot-8 forward originally entered his name in the 2015 draft before withdrawing, going back to his home country to play for Bayern Munich. He also played for Germany's Eurobasket team in 2015, which included NBA'ers Dirk Nowitzki and Dennis Schroder. In 25 German League games, the 22-year-old Zipser averaged 7.8 points, 3.9 rebounds, 1.5 assists and 0.6 steals in 18.1 minutes. Zipser projects as a small forward who could be used in a power forward role in a small-ball lineup. His versatility is in his defense, where he shows solid instincts and good lateral quickness. Zipser's selection at No. 48 followed the Bulls' selection of Michigan State wing Denzel Valentine with the No. 14 pick. The Bulls were rumored to have had discussions with the Celtics and Timberwolves early in the draft, with the intention of trading for Providence's Kris Dunn. |
Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
Jbi11s wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Quote: K.C. Johnson (@KCJHoop) 15 mins ago - View on Twitter Told Bulls are keeping Denzel Valentine. He was second-highest player on their board behind Kris Dunn. Perhaps the the Bulls should examine their scouting process? This tells you all you need to know about how Bulls brass values drafting young prospects. Pathetic. who were your top two? |
Author: | Brick [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
I always thought he was one of the more overrated players in college basketball. He probably was aided by Draymond Green becoming really good because the history of MSU players in the NBA under Izzo has been pretty poor. |
Author: | Gloopan Kuratz [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
Is he dark skinned enough for Goff? |
Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
DannyB wrote: I like his game. Has a chance to be one the top 2 or 3 Valentines ever. |
Author: | RFDC [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
Quote: I'm a big fan of what the Bulls did on draft night. First, they got a terrific fit in Fred Hoiberg's offensive system in Denzel Valentine, a pure shooter who can also really pass and share some of the playmaking duties for his team. Even with the knee concerns, I think this is tremendous value for Chicago. Then at No. 48, Chicago got one of my favorite steals of the draft in Paul Zipser, a 6-foot-8 German combo forward who can step out and knock down 3s as well as defend. He doesn't really create his own shot all that well, but he typifies as a potential 3-and-D role player in the NBA. Nothing sexy here from Chicago, but two really solid NBA talents.
Grade: A- |
Author: | long time guy [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
Kirkwood wrote: Quote: K.C. Johnson (@KCJHoop) 15 mins ago - View on Twitter Told Bulls are keeping Denzel Valentine. He was second-highest player on their board behind Kris Dunn. Perhaps the the Bulls should examine their scouting process? Genius move by GarPax. If Dunn is good/great they can say they knew it all along. If he flops they can simply blame Thibs. |
Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
RFDC wrote: Quote: I'm a big fan of what the Bulls did on draft night. First, they got a terrific fit in Fred Hoiberg's offensive system in Denzel Valentine, a pure shooter who can also really pass and share some of the playmaking duties for his team. Even with the knee concerns, I think this is tremendous value for Chicago. Then at No. 48, Chicago got one of my favorite steals of the draft in Paul Zipser, a 6-foot-8 German combo forward who can step out and knock down 3s as well as defend. He doesn't really create his own shot all that well, but he typifies as a potential 3-and-D role player in the NBA. Nothing sexy here from Chicago, but two really solid NBA talents. Grade: A- I bet this was written by Gar Forman. |
Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
Douchebag wrote: RFDC wrote: Quote: I'm a big fan of what the Bulls did on draft night. First, they got a terrific fit in Fred Hoiberg's offensive system in Denzel Valentine, a pure shooter who can also really pass and share some of the playmaking duties for his team. Even with the knee concerns, I think this is tremendous value for Chicago. Then at No. 48, Chicago got one of my favorite steals of the draft in Paul Zipser, a 6-foot-8 German combo forward who can step out and knock down 3s as well as defend. He doesn't really create his own shot all that well, but he typifies as a potential 3-and-D role player in the NBA. Nothing sexy here from Chicago, but two really solid NBA talents. Grade: A- I bet this was written by Gar Forman. Is he the next Andres Nocioni? |
Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Douchebag wrote: RFDC wrote: Quote: I'm a big fan of what the Bulls did on draft night. First, they got a terrific fit in Fred Hoiberg's offensive system in Denzel Valentine, a pure shooter who can also really pass and share some of the playmaking duties for his team. Even with the knee concerns, I think this is tremendous value for Chicago. Then at No. 48, Chicago got one of my favorite steals of the draft in Paul Zipser, a 6-foot-8 German combo forward who can step out and knock down 3s as well as defend. He doesn't really create his own shot all that well, but he typifies as a potential 3-and-D role player in the NBA. Nothing sexy here from Chicago, but two really solid NBA talents. Grade: A- I bet this was written by Gar Forman. Is he the next Andres Nocioni? I was a big Nocioni guy. Dude put together a couple solid seasons, got paid, and then got bad. He broke my heart. |
Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
I loved Nocioni. Fun player to watch. |
Author: | Darkside [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Denzel Valentine |
jimmypasta wrote: The Bulls used their final pick in the 2016 NBA Draft on German small forward Paul Zipser. The 6-foot-8 forward originally entered his name in the 2015 draft before withdrawing, going back to his home country to play for Bayern Munich. He also played for Germany's Eurobasket team in 2015, which included NBA'ers Dirk Nowitzki and Dennis Schroder. In 25 German League games, the 22-year-old Zipser averaged 7.8 points, 3.9 rebounds, 1.5 assists and 0.6 steals in 18.1 minutes. Zipser projects as a small forward who could be used in a power forward role in a small-ball lineup. His versatility is in his defense, where he shows solid instincts and good lateral quickness. Zipser's selection at No. 48 followed the Bulls' selection of Michigan State wing Denzel Valentine with the No. 14 pick. The Bulls were rumored to have had discussions with the Celtics and Timberwolves early in the draft, with the intention of trading for Providence's Kris Dunn. Win one for the Zipser? |
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