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Author:  conns7901 [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:36 pm ]
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Has to be soon as there is way he is here next year. Bulls have fired two coaches on Christmas Eve, could we get another? Probably not but my guess is the day before the All-Star break.
Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:43 pm ]
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I think Hoiberg has a 5 year deal. There's no chance Jerry allows him to be fired in year 2.

Gar needs to go now. Who hands out a 5 year deal to a rookie coach?
Author:  veganfan21 [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:44 pm ]
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conns7901 wrote:
Has to be soon as there is way he is here next year. Bulls have fired two coaches on Christmas Eve, could we get another? Probably not but my guess is the day before the All-Star break.


He'll get an extension before he gets fired as long as Forman is around. Forman's fate is/should be tied to Hoiberg. He wanted him, he got him, and together they've destroyed the quality of ball we've been used to seeing.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:45 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote:
Who hands out a 5 year deal to a rookie coach?


A dumbass
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:50 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Who hands out a 5 year deal to a rookie coach?


A dumbass

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Author:  IMU [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:52 pm ]
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long time guy has come around. The Bulls fans of CFMB are now united.

Changes need to be made.
Author:  Nas [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:49 am ]
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Gar has to go first. Not sure how a young coach is expected to win without a bench and with high school assistants sitting next to him on the bench.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:02 am ]
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Nas wrote:
Gar has to go first. Not sure how a young coach is expected to win without a bench and with high school assistants sitting next to him on the bench.


It's also about how the players don't play for him. Second year in a row he's been called out. Not a coincidence and certainly never a good sign.
Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:47 am ]
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this is beyond Gar..a package deal Paxson and Gar bye bye
Author:  Ron Wolfley [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:12 am ]
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I remember reports that there were quite a few people in the draft room who wanted Butler traded for Kris Dunn. They wanted a full rebuild. Those people can stay.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:44 am ]
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Ron Wolfley wrote:
I remember reports that there were quite a few people in the draft room who wanted Butler traded for Kris Dunn. They wanted a full rebuild. Those people can stay.


The worst part is signing Wade and Rondo isn't a "going for it all" plan nor is it obviously a "rebuilding" plan. It's probably a sign that there is no plan. At least the Bears are developing players... there's nothing going on for the Bulls right now.

With the prospects the Sox received this year, the Cubs supremacy, and what I assume is the Hawks' stability, the Bulls are probably the least promising franchise in town right now.
Author:  $1,000 [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:02 am ]
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We should wager on it.
Author:  Ron Wolfley [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:09 am ]
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They spent $75 million on a 31 year old point guard who can't shoot and a 34 year old who decided to come home and get paid. They won't be with the Bulls when it's time to contend for a Finals appearance and they stopped you from getting into next summer's lottery, one of the deepest drafts in a while.
Author:  Douchebag [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:32 am ]
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Ron Wolfley wrote:
They spent $75 million on a 31 year old point guard who can't shoot and a 34 year old who decided to come home and get paid. They won't be with the Bulls when it's time to contend for a Finals appearance and they stopped you from getting into next summer's lottery, one of the deepest drafts in a while.

They will be in the lottery this summer.
Author:  Nas [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:37 am ]
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They'll make the playoffs
Author:  Douchebag [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:40 am ]
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Nas wrote:
They'll make the playoffs

Wanna bet? :wink:
Author:  veganfan21 [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:42 am ]
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Nas wrote:
They'll make the playoffs


They suck, don't have any athleticism, and play for an uninspiring, incompetent coach who's routinely and embarrassingly emasculated in public by his high profile players. On what basis do you think they'll make it?
Author:  Nas [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:46 am ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
Nas wrote:
They'll make the playoffs


They suck, don't have any athleticism, and play for an uninspiring, incompetent coach who's routinely and embarrassingly emasculated in public by his high profile players. On what basis do you think they'll make it?


The East sucks
Author:  badrogue17 [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:48 am ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
Nas wrote:
They'll make the playoffs


They suck, don't have any athleticism, and play for an uninspiring, incompetent coach who's routinely and embarrassingly emasculated in public by his high profile players. On what basis do you think they'll make it?

Who said something about Hoiberg this year?
Author:  veganfan21 [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:53 am ]
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Nas wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Nas wrote:
They'll make the playoffs


They suck, don't have any athleticism, and play for an uninspiring, incompetent coach who's routinely and embarrassingly emasculated in public by his high profile players. On what basis do you think they'll make it?


The East sucks


Still early but as of now they're out of the playoffs and only 10-9 vs the east. :lol:

badrogue17 wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Nas wrote:
They'll make the playoffs


They suck, don't have any athleticism, and play for an uninspiring, incompetent coach who's routinely and embarrassingly emasculated in public by his high profile players. On what basis do you think they'll make it?

Who said something about Hoiberg this year?


Not as dramatic as last year's comments from Butler but Wade called out Hoiberg's offense by saying it was predictable, stagnant, didn't create space, and too reliant on Butler.

https://www.google.com/amp/chicago.cbsl ... oid-google

Rondo was also suspended for getting in the face of an assistant coach.
Author:  Chus [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:39 am ]
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$1,000 wrote:
We should wager on it.


Scorehead wrote:
Let's do it.
Author:  long time guy [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:39 pm ]
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Forman has to go. Interesting article by Haugh yesterday which details troubles confronting the Bulls.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/co ... olumn.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ro ... olumn.html
Author:  veganfan21 [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:08 pm ]
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David Haugh should shut up when he says "Wade's words should be interpreted..." We don't need a mediocre, overpromoted columnist telling us how to understand the English language.

Anyway Forman is responsible for the crappy roster and the equally crappy coach he brought in to manage the roster.
Author:  312player [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:13 pm ]
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I don't understand how you all pine for Gar to be whacked or Hoiberg, sure they both suck but Paxson is the reason both were brought in...Paxson is the real problem.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:19 pm ]
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312player wrote:
I don't understand how you all pine for Gar to be whacked or Hoiberg, sure they both suck but Paxson is the reason both were brought in...Paxson is the real problem.


I see four eras of Bulls ball under Pax:

2003-2007: My opinion is this was an overall positive period for the Bulls since they finally recovered from the post Jordan disaster years by becoming a more professional team. Hinrich, Gordon and Deng were good picks. Really bad Ben Wallace signing.

2007-2009: Whatever professionalization achieved under Skiles was almost completely undone by Vinny. Bad choice. Floundering period for the Bulls. Got lucky with Rose. Good pick in Noah. Missed on Tyrus Thomas.

2009-2015: Bulls best period of success since the late 90s.

2015-present: Seemingly directionless. Maybe it is time to go?
Author:  long time guy [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:30 pm ]
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In his diatribe Wade neglected to mention that he has looked old as hell the past 2 weeks. Started noticing it during the Minnesota game. Struggling to get back in transition and also struggling to get his shot off.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:34 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
In his diatribe Wade neglected to mention that he has looked old as hell the past 2 weeks. Started noticing it during the Minnesota game. Struggling to get back in transition and also struggling to get his shot off.


How's that relevant to his critique of the offense? I don't think it is. You can have good play design even if your starting five is comprised of a bunch of retirees. You seem to discount the critiques of players while supporting the critiques of irrelevant columnists. The players know what's up far more than nerds in the press box.
Author:  long time guy [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:39 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
In his diatribe Wade neglected to mention that he has looked old as hell the past 2 weeks. Started noticing it during the Minnesota game. Struggling to get back in transition and also struggling to get his shot off.


How's that relevant to his critique of the offense? I don't think it is. You can have good play design even if your starting five is comprised of a bunch of retirees. You seem to discount the critiques of players while supporting the critiques of irrelevant columnists. The players know what's up far more than nerds in the press box.



It wouldn't be the first time that players have made excuses for shifty play. This is not a very talented team. In Haugh's case he didn't just state an opinion he supported it with facts.
Author:  '77Cubs [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:40 pm ]
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After year 3 at the earliest but probably during year 4 of his contract.

Gar/Pax need gone now but won't happen. Pax has a job in some capacity until Uncle Jerry dies.
Author:  conns7901 [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:46 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Nas wrote:
They'll make the playoffs


They suck, don't have any athleticism, and play for an uninspiring, incompetent coach who's routinely and embarrassingly emasculated in public by his high profile players. On what basis do you think they'll make it?


The East sucks


It sucked last year too.
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