Yeah, this makes no fucking sense unless they get an unbelievable return for him. He's a top 10 player entering his prime and still getting better every season.

Value will never be higher.

It might be. You would have said the same thing a year ago or two years ago and been wrong.

Plus, that's a terrible reason. Russell Westbrook's value probably won't ever be higher. Maybe the Thunder should trade him!

Butler isn't a franchise player. If you can get a lot for him you take it.

Yeah, this makes no fucking sense unless they get an unbelievable return for him. He's a top 10 player entering his prime and still getting better every season.

If Butler isn't a franchise player you're saying there are only like three of them in the entire league.

He definitely isn't. He's a #2.

He definitely isn't. He's a #2.

for better or worse jimmy considers himself to be a #1 guy. shit, his propensity to have str8up "my turn" possessions on offense totally reminds me of the good ol days of watching 2010s thudner playoff games for the "heroball" on display...

otherwise, i gotta agree with your prognosis here.... for now. idk if it's possible, but at least you know that jimmy will try to further elevate himself to a no-doubt #1-guy cuz i dont think anyone can really question his heart, hunger, and desire to be the best basketball player he can be. seriously, his jumper keeps on getting better and better over time so i mean, man, maybe there's 1 more higher level/plateau he can reach? MAYBE 2? idk.

what's the official C/S/FMB ruling on the potential of jimmy butler? is what he is right now as good as he can realistically ever hope to be, or can he keep getting better and better via basketball smarts + continually improving his jumper to such an extent that it kinda strikes me as being akin to 2nd-half-of-his-career jordan; he didnt have that cold jumper when he entered/got-started in the league, you know?

Well, again, you guys would have said the same thing about Butler value last year and been wrong, so I'm not inclined to agree yet either. But even if that is true, it's a horrible reason to trade a player.

I'm confident that he won't ever be a player that you build around but he's a great player to have on any team. I think Wade definitely helped him take his game to the level of a star player.

I don't know what else you need to see. He's already that player. He just has a terrible coach and bad teammates around him currently.

Isn't moving Rondo the far more likely scenario? Even if you can only get a second round pick I still think you need to move his emotionally maladaptive ass.

But the whole league knows he's a malcontent, now. That's why he was available for the Bulls to sign.

What's more, it's a shooting league, now, more than ever, and Rondo is a guy that simply cannot shoot. He's started 29 games with an Effective FG% of .404. That is worst in the league among guards with at least 20 starts by 20 whole points.

The only way he gets off this roster is if they release him, which might be worth it at this point because soon he will turn malignant while riding the pine.

Isn't moving Rondo the far more likely scenario? Even if you can only get a second round pick I still think you need to move his emotionally maladaptive ass.

You absolutely do not trade Jimmy unless the return is substantial.

If they release Rondo he's going to Cleveland.

I do wonder if Lebron would allow that.

I do wonder if Lebron would allow that.