Should the Bulls go after Ibaka? Reportedly on the block and definitely a "stretch four" for Hoiberg's coveted pace and space. Taj jacking 3's can't be the answer.

I'm a big fan of Ibaka but I never understood the trade from Orlando's perspective and it wouldn't really make sense for the Bulls unless they were just giving him away. He needs to be on a contender and paired with a big center.

You definitely don't trade Butler for him but aside from that I don't see anyone else Orlando would take for him. Bulls 2nd best guy is 35 years old and has little to no trade value. The young guys aren't good enough to trade and Orlando needs guards. Bulls young guards have little value too. Maybe a draft pick


Robin Lopez fits the big Center profile and Ibaka would be perfect because of his athleticism and ability to shoot the three. It allows the Bulls to get younger and better at that position immediately.

I realize me and ltg are sort of the JORR of hoops around here. Give me a competitive team. I have no desire to go back to the Mercer/El-Amin days in hopes of a future payoff.

This is the kind of running in place thinking that led to the Wade and Rondo signings. Might as well trade for Tyson Chandler and Vince Carter so we can really make a run for it. And who gives a shit about Hoiberg's offense - he's a lame duck on his way out.

Are you under the impression Serge Ibaka is old?

Whatever move that will shut you the fuck up

This is the kind of running in place thinking that led to the Wade and Rondo signings. Might as well trade for Tyson Chandler and Vince Carter so we can really make a run for it. And who gives a shit about Hoiberg's offense - he's a lame duck on his way out.

Running in place? You're out of touch and I'm out of time. Serge Ibaka is a significant upgrade at the 4 spot and is only 24 or 25 years old.

I'm only half joking about Hoiberg and I doubt that he is done after this season. Reinsdorf isn't going to eat 15 mil in salary. He also will have to a make move on Forman and possibly Paxson to make that move.

He's 28 this year, so you're way off. And while he's an upgrade here's the question: who gives a shit? This is a classic makeup on a pig kind of move. You're going nowhere with Forman and Hoiberg calling the shots, regardless of who they acquire. And Forman's creepy micromanaging of the locker room isn't going to help the team land stud players in free agency. He's a liability and so is his coach. Deport both of them.

Fortunes can change in an instant in the NBA. Maybe you trade for Ibaka, keep Butler, and sign another good FA this offseason and have a 50 win team next year and build on that. I agree Gar and Hoiberg have to go, and maybe Pax too, but that doesn't prevent me from wanting this deal to happen if the price is right.

You do that then this team becomes a win now team since ibaka and Butler are in their late twenties. I doubt any free agent is coming here so not sure what else you can do to add to the core other than sell it for younger pieces. Probably can't trade ibaka for some time once you acquire him but I see selling your best pieces as a more viable path to future success then rolling the dice with Butler and ibaka as your top two guys.