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Don Tiny

Post subject: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:11 am

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/ct-rosenbloom-bulls-management-spt-0208-20170207-column.html

Wait, John Paxson and Gar Forman will get to keep their jobs? Seriously?

By: Steve Rosenbloom - Contact Reporter, Chicago Tribune

If you're a Bulls fan looking for change — a change of the roster, a change of management wonks, a change of dynamic proportions — then you need to look elsewhere.

Or just wait.

Because our Bulls guru K.C. Johnson is reporting that ownership-level sources tell him executive vice president of basketball operations John Paxson and general manager Gar Forman will keep their jobs after this season.

I don't know how they still have their jobs today, and now they're good going forward?

This seems to be how you go backward. Or sideways.

I can't say I'm surprised, what with Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf's legendary loyalty, a trait presumably shared by his son, President Michael Reinsdorf.

But this doesn't sound like happy news for Bulls fans hoping to see another championship in their lifetime.

We have seen what Paxson and Forman can do, and that's wait for something that doesn't stink to fall into their laps and then hope it's enough to barely make the playoffs.

So far, that's the case. The Bulls hold the seventh spot in the Eastern Conference. Congratulations, here's your participation ribbon.

What we haven't seen Paxson and Forman do of late is show vision and stick to it, or if they have a vision, this can't be it.

When the Bulls traded Derrick Rose, the plan was to get younger and more athletic. That was Forman's phrase. Forman also said he hoped the team could remain competitive while young players gained experience and improved.

Waiting. Wait. Ing.

That's a hard trick to pull off, and the Bulls are Exhibit A. The younger players haven't improved. The veterans have been inconsistent and subject to discipline. The locker room seems like it sometimes requires Kevlar.

And so, the guys who put this together stay put? Their scholarships are renewed?

Hey, how 'bout them Blackhawks?

But I see a chance that something good can come of this painful news, and here's how:

If Paxson and Forman have security for at least another year, then perhaps they can feel emboldened to trade Jimmy Butler to rebuild quickly. You know, actually get younger and more athletic. Actually make people believe there's a future the way they do with the White Sox after Reinsdorf's baseball team finally committed.

And like it was for Reinsdorf's baseball team, Boston is the best destination for a deal. The Celtics own the Nets' first-round draft choice, a sure-fire lottery pick that should end up with the best odds of snagging No. 1 overall.

That's just for starters, but what also comes into play is if the Bulls trade Butler, they almost certainly would fall out of the playoffs and into the lottery themselves, and two lottery picks in what appears to be a terrific draft class certainly would speed up the rebuild.

The problem is, the guys who brought you this version of basketball goulash, the wonks who traded up to get Doug McDermott and who thought Rajon Rondo was a good idea, would be the ones in charge of rebuilding.

Can you trust them to do better than McDermott? Better than Bobby Portis? Better than Nikola Mirotic? Denzel Valentine? Tony Snell? Marquis Teague?

No, you can't trust them. That's why you wouldn't want them doing this.

But you don't want them doing what they did this season, either, right?

So, if Paxson and Forman have a hall pass for at least next season, then Stevie Sunshine is trying to find something that doesn't make me ill in this news.

Perhaps Chairman Reinsdorf can't stomach two rebuilds at the same time.

But I don't know any Bulls fan who can stomach Paxson and Forman doing more of the same for another season.

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ZephMarshack

Post subject: Re: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:49 am

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Don Tiny wrote:

The problem is, the guys who brought you this version of basketball goulash, the wonks who traded up to get Doug McDermott and who thought Rajon Rondo was a good idea, would be the ones in charge of rebuilding.

Can you trust them to do better than McDermott? Better than Bobby Portis? Better than Nikola Mirotic? Denzel Valentine? Tony Snell? Marquis Teague?

No, you can't trust them. That's why you wouldn't want them doing this.

But you don't want them doing what they did this season, either, right?

I generally dislike Rosenbloom but this is obviously spot on.

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Drake LaRrieta

Post subject: Re: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:34 am

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The Bulls can't beat Cleveland regardless of what happens this season. So it's sort of useless to obsess over this stuff. Wade and Rondo will likely be gone next year as well as Gibson.

I think GarPax should be commended for trading Derrick Rose a year before he was up for free agency. Robin Lopez for Rose might turn out to be a solid deal given how poorly Rose has played for the Knicks.

The only decision the Bulls that makes a difference on the team going forward is if they want to trade Jimmy Butler. For the right deal it would make sense.

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Minooka Meatball

Post subject: Re: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:48 am

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What are the chances that if good ol' Jerry should kick the bucket that MR decides to pull a Rocky Wirtz and blow it all up?

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ZephMarshack

Post subject: Re: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:50 am

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Minooka Meatball wrote:

What are the chances that if good ol' Jerry should kick the bucket that MR decides to pull a Rocky Wirtz and blow it all up?

Michael's rumored to be even closer to Gar than Jerry is.

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Don Tiny

Post subject: Re: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:52 am

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ZephMarshack wrote:

Minooka Meatball wrote:

What are the chances that if good ol' Jerry should kick the bucket that MR decides to pull a Rocky Wirtz and blow it all up?

Michael's rumored to be even closer to Gar than Jerry is.

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FrankDrebin

Post subject: Re: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:54 am

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They won't leave until attendance starts to dwindle. #RiseUp

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Don Tiny

Post subject: Re: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:07 pm

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FrankDrebin wrote:

They won't leave until attendance starts to dwindle. #RiseUp

That's what I've been sayin'.

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Bagels

Post subject: Re: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:57 pm

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:

The Bulls can't beat Cleveland regardless of what happens this season. So it's sort of useless to obsess over this stuff

god you're dumb

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312player

Post subject: Re: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:55 pm

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1. Fire Paxson
2. Fire Gar
3. Fire Fred
4. Trade Jimmy to Boston, this draft is loaded, best in years.

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veganfan21

Post subject: Re: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:58 pm

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312player wrote:

1. Fire Paxson
2. Fire Gar
3. Fire Fred
4. Trade Jimmy to Boston, this draft is loaded, best in years.

Love it

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat

Post subject: Re: GarPax Jobs Are Secure

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:22 pm

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Haven't watched for years. Won't consider it until they are both gone.

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