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Author:  FavreFan [ Sat May 20, 2017 12:39 pm ]
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Based on salary cap projections, and the fact that Butler made the All NBA team this year, in the summer of 2019 Butler will be eligible for a 5 year/$247 million contract.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Sat May 20, 2017 12:42 pm ]
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No

Author:  Nas [ Sat May 20, 2017 12:50 pm ]
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He has to make it the season before he becomes a free agent.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sat May 20, 2017 12:52 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
He has to make it the season before he becomes a free agent.

Nope. Just has to make it once. The numbers might change by a few million depending on what the cap actually is but he's now eligible for the super max contract.

Author:  Nas [ Sat May 20, 2017 12:54 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
He has to make it the season before he becomes a free agent.

Nope. Just has to make it once. The numbers might change by a few million depending on what the cap actually is but he's now eligible for the super max contract.


I don't believe that is true.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sat May 20, 2017 1:08 pm ]
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Well, I guess I should've checked more than one source. It looks like he has to make one more All NBA team, either next season or the season after that, and then he will be eligible for it. If he stays healthy he'll do it.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Sat May 20, 2017 2:28 pm ]
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Don't think Boston will give him that much.

Author:  '77Cubs [ Sat May 20, 2017 2:31 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Based on salary cap projections, and the fact that Butler made the All NBA team this year, in the summer of 2019 Butler will be eligible for a 5 year/$247 million contract.


49.4M per annum?? Are you kidding me??

For Lebron yes, maybe Curry but for anyone else fuck that.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Sat May 20, 2017 8:38 pm ]
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We need to trade him before he starts commanding Kawhi/LBJ money.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sat May 20, 2017 8:51 pm ]
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'77Cubs wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Based on salary cap projections, and the fact that Butler made the All NBA team this year, in the summer of 2019 Butler will be eligible for a 5 year/$247 million contract.


49.4M per annum?? Are you kidding me??

For Lebron yes, maybe Curry but for anyone else fuck that.

That's where the league is headed. It's absolutely a worthwhile contract for a top 10 player. Not sure if Butler still will be 2 years from now as he's turning 30 though.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Sat May 20, 2017 8:58 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
'77Cubs wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Based on salary cap projections, and the fact that Butler made the All NBA team this year, in the summer of 2019 Butler will be eligible for a 5 year/$247 million contract.


49.4M per annum?? Are you kidding me??

For Lebron yes, maybe Curry but for anyone else fuck that.

That's where the league is headed. It's absolutely a worthwhile contract for a top 10 player. Not sure if Butler still will be 2 years from now as he's turning 30 though.


So you'd trade him then before he starts to command that kind of dough?

Author:  FavreFan [ Sat May 20, 2017 9:02 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
'77Cubs wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Based on salary cap projections, and the fact that Butler made the All NBA team this year, in the summer of 2019 Butler will be eligible for a 5 year/$247 million contract.


49.4M per annum?? Are you kidding me??

For Lebron yes, maybe Curry but for anyone else fuck that.

That's where the league is headed. It's absolutely a worthwhile contract for a top 10 player. Not sure if Butler still will be 2 years from now as he's turning 30 though.


So you'd trade him then before he starts to command that kind of dough?

Not necessarily. I wouldn't be a in hurry to trade him before next summer. I'd have to see where the team is heading into the 2018-2019 season before pulling the trigger. Unless someone blows me away with an offer like the Celtics 1st pick + Brown or Bradley or Smart or something like that.

Author:  billypootons [ Sat May 20, 2017 9:24 pm ]
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whatever the price ends up being, not interested in a 29 year old player that has been treated like a rental car w/150k miles on it

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Author:  long time guy [ Sun May 21, 2017 6:33 pm ]
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No way in hell. One of the reasons I want him dealt.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Sun May 21, 2017 7:06 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
No way in hell. One of the reasons I want him dealt.

If this teams continues to be a big pile of nothing - which it undoubtedly will - then that's the only correct response.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 9:59 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
long time guy wrote:
No way in hell. One of the reasons I want him dealt.

If this teams continues to be a big pile of nothing - which it undoubtedly will - then that's the only correct response.

Usually you're not one to oversimplify to a silly degree. The correct answer is obviously you only deal him if you're getting fair value or at least something close. You don't just give away All NBA players.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:07 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
long time guy wrote:
No way in hell. One of the reasons I want him dealt.

If this teams continues to be a big pile of nothing - which it undoubtedly will - then that's the only correct response.

Usually you're not one to oversimplify to a silly degree. The correct answer is obviously you only deal him if you're getting fair value or at least something close. You don't just give away All NBA players.


That's also a recipe for letting him walk for nothing in return.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:12 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
long time guy wrote:
No way in hell. One of the reasons I want him dealt.

If this teams continues to be a big pile of nothing - which it undoubtedly will - then that's the only correct response.

Usually you're not one to oversimplify to a silly degree. The correct answer is obviously you only deal him if you're getting fair value or at least something close. You don't just give away All NBA players.


That's also a recipe for letting him walk for nothing in return.

Depends on if he makes the All NBA team next year. He's not turning down an extra $70-80 million

Author:  leashyourkids [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:14 pm ]
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The Bulls will never compete for anything as long as they have Jimmy Butler.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:16 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
The Bulls will never compete for anything as long as they have Jimmy Butler.

You're always criticizing declarative statements and here you make one of the dumber ones in awhile

Author:  long time guy [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:23 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
long time guy wrote:
No way in hell. One of the reasons I want him dealt.

If this teams continues to be a big pile of nothing - which it undoubtedly will - then that's the only correct response.

Usually you're not one to oversimplify to a silly degree. The correct answer is obviously you only deal him if you're getting fair value or at least something close. You don't just give away All NBA players.


Depends on what your definition of fair market value happens to be.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:24 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
long time guy wrote:
No way in hell. One of the reasons I want him dealt.

If this teams continues to be a big pile of nothing - which it undoubtedly will - then that's the only correct response.

Usually you're not one to oversimplify to a silly degree. The correct answer is obviously you only deal him if you're getting fair value or at least something close. You don't just give away All NBA players.


Depends on what your definition of fair market value happens to be.

I've said multiple times. The 1st overall pick + a young asset like Brown/Bradley/Smart. After tonight, I would like Smart.

Author:  long time guy [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:26 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
long time guy wrote:
No way in hell. One of the reasons I want him dealt.

If this teams continues to be a big pile of nothing - which it undoubtedly will - then that's the only correct response.

Usually you're not one to oversimplify to a silly degree. The correct answer is obviously you only deal him if you're getting fair value or at least something close. You don't just give away All NBA players.


Depends on what your definition of fair market value happens to be.

I've said multiple times. The 1st overall pick + a young asset like Brown/Bradley/Smart. After tonight, I would like Smart.



Boston will never make that trade.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:26 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
The Bulls will never compete for anything as long as they have Jimmy Butler.

You're always criticizing declarative statements and here you make one of the dumber ones in awhile


It's not really a comment on Butler. It's that they can't reload before he is over 30.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:27 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
The Bulls will never compete for anything as long as they have Jimmy Butler.

You're always criticizing declarative statements and here you make one of the dumber ones in awhile


It's not really a comment on Butler. It's that they can't reload before he is over 30.

They can, but I would agree they probably won't. I see him being a great player until 33 or later though.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:28 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
long time guy wrote:
No way in hell. One of the reasons I want him dealt.

If this teams continues to be a big pile of nothing - which it undoubtedly will - then that's the only correct response.

Usually you're not one to oversimplify to a silly degree. The correct answer is obviously you only deal him if you're getting fair value or at least something close. You don't just give away All NBA players.


Depends on what your definition of fair market value happens to be.

I've said multiple times. The 1st overall pick + a young asset like Brown/Bradley/Smart. After tonight, I would like Smart.



Boston will never make that trade.

Well then they can continue to be a pretender instead of a contender

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