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| Author: | St. Louis Bull Man [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
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| Author: | St. Louis Bull Man [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win |
PGMalcolm Delaney SGKent Bazemore SFTaurean Prince PFMike Muscala CDewayne Dedmon PG Jerian Grant SG Denzel Valentine SF Justin Holiday PF Lauri Markkanen * C Robin Lopez Injuries I. TaylorINACTIVE N. BrussinoINACTIVE Dennis SchroderOUT DeAndre' BembryOUT Ersan IlyasovaGTD Marco BelinelliGTD Miles PlumleeGTD Nikola Mirotic OUT Zach LaVine OUT Bobby Portis OUT Cameron Payne OUT Kris Dunn OUT Paul Zipser GTD ** * Laurie may be a girl's name but this dude is a tough, un-effected player with skill and guts. ** Zippy had a very solid 1st half last game, nailing 3's and driving the hoop and was decent in the 2nd half. Hope he can play tonight. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win |
I'm not sure what more John collins needs to show before they give him the starting job, but I'll be interested in comparing him and Markkanen tonight. |
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| Author: | St. Louis Bull Man [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win |
FavreFan wrote: I'm not sure what more John collins needs to show before they give him the starting job, but I'll be interested in comparing him and Markkanen tonight. Not familiar with Collins...who is he? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win |
St. Louis Bull Man wrote: FavreFan wrote: I'm not sure what more John collins needs to show before they give him the starting job, but I'll be interested in comparing him and Markkanen tonight. Not familiar with Collins...who is he? Rookie PF for the Hawks, was the 19th pick in this past draft. Has flashed a lot of talent and production in limited minutes off the bench so far. Considering how injured they are currently, I'm surprised the Hawks aren't starting him yet. I imagine that'll change before mid season. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win |
Lookin' forward to 0-4 tonight. One step closer to Forman's master plan of rebuilding the Bulls: draft shooters, trade shooters for future Cameron Paynes, bench the Paynes, draft shooter again. Rinse and repeat. |
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| Author: | St. Louis Bull Man [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win |
FavreFan wrote: St. Louis Bull Man wrote: FavreFan wrote: I'm not sure what more John collins needs to show before they give him the starting job, but I'll be interested in comparing him and Markkanen tonight. Not familiar with Collins...who is he? Rookie PF for the Hawks, was the 19th pick in this past draft. Has flashed a lot of talent and production in limited minutes off the bench so far. Considering how injured they are currently, I'm surprised the Hawks aren't starting him yet. I imagine that'll change before mid season. |
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| Author: | St. Louis Bull Man [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win |
veganfan21 wrote: Lookin' forward to 0-4 tonight. One step closer to Forman's master plan of rebuilding the Bulls: draft shooters, trade shooters for future Cameron Paynes, bench the Paynes, draft shooter again. Rinse and repeat. 
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| Author: | IMU [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win |
McDermott can't even make an impact on the bad Knicks. Traded garbage for garbage. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win |
If they lose this they might not win until December Every tall white mother fucker is Dirk 
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
IMU wrote: McDermott can't even make an impact on the bad Knicks. Traded garbage for garbage. No argument from me I just can't let go of the cost it took to get him. Two picks, he doesn't deliver, then you trade him for trash. Might as well have kept him just to keep seeing if he turned into anything worthwhile. Payne isn't good for anything. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
veganfan21 wrote: IMU wrote: McDermott can't even make an impact on the bad Knicks. Traded garbage for garbage. No argument from me I just can't let go of the cost it took to get him. Two picks, he doesn't deliver, then you trade him for trash. Might as well have kept him just to keep seeing if he turned into anything worthwhile. Payne isn't good for anything. McDermott and Payne are equally useless players. Trading up to draft McDermott was a horrible move that most of us called at the time. The trade for Payne wasn't bad or good, it wasn't anything and had no effect on the team moving forward. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
FavreFan wrote: veganfan21 wrote: IMU wrote: McDermott can't even make an impact on the bad Knicks. Traded garbage for garbage. No argument from me I just can't let go of the cost it took to get him. Two picks, he doesn't deliver, then you trade him for trash. Might as well have kept him just to keep seeing if he turned into anything worthwhile. Payne isn't good for anything. McDermott and Payne are equally useless players. Trading up to draft McDermott was a horrible move that most of us called at the time. The trade for Payne wasn't bad or good, it wasn't anything and had no effect on the team moving forward. Agreed. Except they lost the trade since they gave up Gibson. They were going to suck regardless but it just further demonstrated forman's incompetence. At least he's heading to Ames next week on a scouting trip. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
Giving up Gibson didn't lose them the trade. He also had no place on the future of this team and wasn't worth much considering he was a rental. There's like a million reasons to criticize GarPax and you're harping on one of the few moves they didn't egregiously fuck up in the last few years.
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| Author: | IMU [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
Well Markkanen sucks tonight. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
God Lopez is awful when asked to do anymore than he should. |
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| Author: | St. Louis Bull Man [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
IMU wrote: Well Markkanen sucks tonight. Game's not over.
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| Author: | St. Louis Bull Man [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
I know Lopez works hard down low, but goddam will we EVER have a good center??? 
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| Author: | IMU [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
The genius that is Hoiberg...have Robin Lopez shoot a bunch of threes. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
IMU wrote: The genius that is Hoiberg...have Robin Lopez shoot a bunch of threes. Paxson has someone feeding Fred terrible ideas under the guise that they're trying to help. |
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| Author: | St. Louis Bull Man [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
OMG I don't know this team...not as much fun watch. Gonna be a strange season. This ain't BULLS basketball...I don't know WHAT it is! |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
FavreFan wrote: Giving up Gibson didn't lose them the trade. He also had no place on the future of this team and wasn't worth much considering he was a rental. There's like a million reasons to criticize GarPax and you're harping on one of the few moves they didn't egregiously fuck up in the last few years. You always try to extract value. I have to look at the trade but I remember it was roundly criticized, even by national writers. There's even speculation that it was the thunder who submitted a vote for forman as GM of the year mainly due to that trade. When that happens, you lost the trade. Anyway again we all know forman sucks but that's just one example. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
It's better to watch than last year. Rhondo was great but otherwise frustrating team. Or last few years really have sucked bad. This year we have no dead legs on the team. For years we always had some dipshit that stopped the offense when he got the ball. Not this year. We're young, make dumbass plays... But man, they are moving and it's nice to see fresh energy. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
veganfan21 wrote: FavreFan wrote: Giving up Gibson didn't lose them the trade. He also had no place on the future of this team and wasn't worth much considering he was a rental. There's like a million reasons to criticize GarPax and you're harping on one of the few moves they didn't egregiously fuck up in the last few years. You always try to extract value. I have to look at the trade but I remember it was roundly criticized, even by national writers. There's even speculation that it was the thunder who submitted a vote for forman as GM of the year mainly due to that trade. When that happens, you lost the trade. Anyway again we all know forman sucks but that's just one example. The trade had almost no impact on either team last season, or this season/future. Anyone criticizing it is wrong in hindsight. It was fine. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
FavreFan wrote: veganfan21 wrote: FavreFan wrote: Giving up Gibson didn't lose them the trade. He also had no place on the future of this team and wasn't worth much considering he was a rental. There's like a million reasons to criticize GarPax and you're harping on one of the few moves they didn't egregiously fuck up in the last few years. You always try to extract value. I have to look at the trade but I remember it was roundly criticized, even by national writers. There's even speculation that it was the thunder who submitted a vote for forman as GM of the year mainly due to that trade. When that happens, you lost the trade. Anyway again we all know forman sucks but that's just one example. The trade had almost no impact on either team last season, or this season/future. Anyone criticizing it is wrong in hindsight. It was fine. It helped the thunder last year plus they got a pick. Who the fuck loses a pick when have the most valuable chip in a deal with a contender? A GM who lost the trade does. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
How did it help the Thunder? They were making the playoffs and losing in the first round with or without the trade. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
Not getting cheated on launching 3s this game. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
IMU wrote: Well Markkanen sucks tonight. Playing pretty well tonight. He's a better rebounder than I thought he would be, which still surprises me. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
I don't like meatballs with my spaghetti? |
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| Author: | St. Louis Bull Man [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hawks@BULLS...Our 1st win? (FSSE) |
This Mwoba kid intrigues me 
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