Adrian Wojnarowski
ESPN


The Memphis Grizzlies have acquired Chicago Bulls forward Justin Holiday for two players and two future second-round draft picks, league sources told ESPN.

The Grizzlies sent the Bulls their 2019 and 2020 second-round picks, along with forward Wayne Selden and guard MarShon Brooks, sources said.



Memphis coveted the athletic playmaking ability of Justin Holiday, who is averaging 11.6 points, 4.4 rebounds and 2.2 assists in 35 minutes a game. Mike DiNovo-USA TODAY Sports

Memphis had believed it had a deal including Brooks and Selden for Kelly Oubre Jr. in early December, but that deal fall apart when the Phoenix Suns were under the impression they were receiving Memphis' Dillon Brooks as part of a three-way deal.

Memphis has struggled lately and coveted the athletic playmaking ability of Holiday, who is averaging 11.6 points, 4.4 rebounds and 2.2 assists in 35 minutes a game.


Holiday is on an expiring contract and could be moved again before the Feb. 7 trade deadline as long as his contract is not aggregated with another player. However, by giving up the two second-round picks, it would seem Memphis' intent is to re-sign Holiday this summer.

The Grizzlies remain $463,000 under the luxury tax with the $4.4 million addition of Holiday.

The Bulls are in a dealmaking mode, shopping center Robin Lopez and forward Jabari Parker in trade talks, sources said.

With the trade, Chicago has 16 players on its roster and will need to waive a player. Management was still working on that decision Thursday night; however, the team probably will waive guard Cameron Payne, league sources said. After the Oklahoma City Thunder selected him 14th overall in the 2015 NBA draft, Payne, 24, has struggled to stay healthy and find traction in the league.

ESPN front office Insider Bobby Marks contributed to this report.

Can the NBA guys on here give me a breakdown? I read they are going to waive one of the players. I'm guessing it's mainly about the picks?

The Chicago Bulls have traded Justin Holiday to the Memphis Grizzlies for MarShon Brooks and Wayne Selden Jr., as well as the Grizzlies’ 2019 and 2020 second-round picks. In a related move, the Bulls also waived Cameron Payne.

Heavy tanking now. Excellent.

The official social media release:

Anyway, Holiday plays 30+ minutes because he fits in with a tank job.

Most likely uses of these 2 picks:
49% chance they're packaged to move a player the Bulls don't want like Parker and save money
49% chance they're sold for cash on draft night
2% chance the Bulls actually make picks with them, because draft picks are of limited value to a team that's rebuilding.

90% chance Bulls trade Lauri rather than signing him to a new deal when his rookie contract is done. They hold a press conference announcing a pivot toward acquiring even more younger players then they shortly sign Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce to new deals after bringing them out of retirement.

Holiday playing 30 minutes fit the tank. Blakeney playing 30 minutes fits it even better.

what is the point of this trade? is there a 2 to 3 sentence explanation? i could give two shits about holiday, but how does this put them in a better position long term?

In the modern NBA there is virtually no difference in size between the 2 and 3.

https://fansided.com/2016/06/23/average ... ents-2016/



Two lottery tickets. Holiday wasn't being re-signed at the end of the season.

In the modern NBA there is virtually no difference in size between the 2 and 3.

https://fansided.com/2016/06/23/average ... ents-2016/



Two lottery tickets. Holiday wasn't being re-signed at the end of the season.

what is the point of this trade? is there a 2 to 3 sentence explanation? i could give two shits about holiday, but how does this put them in a better position long term?

Which "modern NBA" do you actually watch? there aren't a lot of 6'2 threes. Particularly 6'2 threes that have the body of a high schooler.

Heavy tanking now. Excellent.

The official social media release:

There aren't a lot of 6'2" SG's either. I gave you the numbers from 2016. It's the same now. We argue a lot. But you can't argue facts so there is nothing more to say on this topic.

When discussing the height of NBA players at positions...knowing the average height of NBA players at positions seems to be extremely relevant.

Wager declined. Chandler Hutchison is already playing more minutes than Antonio Blakeney. Why would that change? Both of their minutes will increase.

Some of Holiday's minutes will go to Blakeney, yes. Blakeney is playing 15 minutes a game right now. I'd bet that average goes up for the remainder of the season. Do you take that bet?

Where are you getting 6'2" from? You continue stating it. No player we have discussed is 6'2".

I guess I have to wait and see where Selden fits in the rotation. He seems to be the same player as Blakeney. No bet, for now. Ask me again in a week.