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Author:  IMU [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:54 am ]
Post subject:  Are the Bulls losing their best player in the offseason?

Portis will be a RFA. Are they going to match another $20MM AAV contract. Will they end up with 5 $20MM salaries and no stars?

Author:  conns7901 [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:55 am ]
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Let him walk at that price.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:57 am ]
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No. Lauri probably won't be traded.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:10 am ]
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Bulls talent so awful, D Wade trades jerseys with Benny the Bulls after the thrashing tonight.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:24 am ]
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I wouldn't pay anyone over 1mil. If we're gonna be shit just save the money

Author:  Jbi11s [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:25 am ]
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IkeSouth wrote:
I wouldn't pay anyone over 1mil. If we're gonna be shit just save the money

Yeah, but no free agent worth a shit is going to sign here.

Maybe Zion could change that tho.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:28 am ]
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Forman's reputation around the league is toxic. No one wants to play for him.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:44 am ]
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IMU wrote:
Portis will be a RFA. Are they going to match another $20MM AAV contract. Will they end up with 5 $20MM salaries and no stars?



I doubt anyone would give that clown $20MM. If the Bulls do, you can just cancel the season.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:43 pm ]
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Apparently what constitutes their best player is ever evolving.

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=115309&hilit=Bulls+best+player


IMU wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Currently being destroyed by Reggie Jackson. I like Arch but he is nothing more than a backup. Probably a 3rd stringer when it shakes out.

Still haven't seen a denial that he is the Bulls' best player though.

Author:  IMU [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:45 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
Apparently what constitutes their best player is ever evolving.

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=115309&hilit=Bulls+best+player

I certainly don't think Bobby Portis is the Bulls best player. I don't even like Bobby Portis.

But recently he has demonstrated consistent offensive capabilities...and seems to be their top threat from 3. Did the Bulls make a mistake in matching Lavine's RFA and now likely not being able to match Portis'?

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:49 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Apparently what constitutes their best player is ever evolving.

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=115309&hilit=Bulls+best+player

I certainly don't think Bobby Portis is the Bulls best player. I don't even like Bobby Portis.

But recently he has demonstrated consistent offensive capabilities...and seems to be their top threat from 3. Did the Bulls make a mistake in matching Lavine's RFA and now likely not being able to match Portis'?


Bobby hasn't played well this year. He is nothing more than a backup. Matching Lavine was the right play then and its the right play now.


Let Portis walk. He had one good game but he has largely stunk the joint up this year. You don't pay that type of money to guys that are backups.

Author:  IMU [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:52 pm ]
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What does Lavine do wildly better than Portis?

Their scoring efficiency is about the same. Their first 4 seasons seem pretty similar on the offensive end, when you adjust for the differences in volume / minutes played.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:54 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
What does Lavine do wildly better than Portis?

Score. Shoots higher percentage from 3. Look at his career avg and contrast it with Portis's. No comparison. Also a better passer. Higher Basketball IQ too.

I'd take Jabari Parker in a heartbeat over Bobby Portis also.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:34 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
IMU wrote:
What does Lavine do wildly better than Portis?

Score. Shoots higher percentage from 3. Look at his career avg and contrast it with Portis's. No comparison. Also a better passer. Higher Basketball IQ too.

I'd take Jabari Parker in a heartbeat over Bobby Portis also.


You're fighting a losing battle here. Jabari Parker is the most irrelevant player on quite possibly the most irrelevant Bulls team in history. Only the 1999 team comes close to matching this garbage team in futility. Parker got a conditional deal to join the worst team in the league. He might be jobless in two years unless learns the concept of defense.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:46 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
IMU wrote:
What does Lavine do wildly better than Portis?

Score. Shoots higher percentage from 3. Look at his career avg and contrast it with Portis's. No comparison. Also a better passer. Higher Basketball IQ too.

I'd take Jabari Parker in a heartbeat over Bobby Portis also.


You're fighting a losing battle here. Jabari Parker is the most irrelevant player on quite possibly the most irrelevant Bulls team in history. Only the 1999 team comes close to matching this garbage team in futility. Parker got a conditional deal to join the worst team in the league. He might be jobless in two years unless learns the concept of defense.


What do you know you don't watch the Bulls remember?

Also I will place a bet that he is on an NBA roster in 2 years. What say you?

Author:  veganfan21 [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:50 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
IMU wrote:
What does Lavine do wildly better than Portis?

Score. Shoots higher percentage from 3. Look at his career avg and contrast it with Portis's. No comparison. Also a better passer. Higher Basketball IQ too.

I'd take Jabari Parker in a heartbeat over Bobby Portis also.


You're fighting a losing battle here. Jabari Parker is the most irrelevant player on quite possibly the most irrelevant Bulls team in history. Only the 1999 team comes close to matching this garbage team in futility. Parker got a conditional deal to join the worst team in the league. He might be jobless in two years unless learns the concept of defense.


What do you know you don't watch the Bulls remember?

Also I will place a bet that he is on an NBA roster in 2 years. What say you?


I watch enough to know he sucks. I said he may be jobless - he's still young enough to play and there are too many dumb GMs that are willing to take a flyer on him. But he should be jobless if the world was just.

Author:  IMU [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:52 pm ]
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Is Jabari LTG's new Josh Smith?

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:54 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
IMU wrote:
What does Lavine do wildly better than Portis?

Score. Shoots higher percentage from 3. Look at his career avg and contrast it with Portis's. No comparison. Also a better passer. Higher Basketball IQ too.

I'd take Jabari Parker in a heartbeat over Bobby Portis also.


You're fighting a losing battle here. Jabari Parker is the most irrelevant player on quite possibly the most irrelevant Bulls team in history. Only the 1999 team comes close to matching this garbage team in futility. Parker got a conditional deal to join the worst team in the league. He might be jobless in two years unless learns the concept of defense.


What do you know you don't watch the Bulls remember?

Also I will place a bet that he is on an NBA roster in 2 years. What say you?


I watch enough to know he sucks. I said he may be jobless - he's still young enough to play and there are too many dumb GMs that are willing to take a flyer on him. But he should be jobless if the world was just.



There is not a chance in hell that he will be out the league in 2 years so its silly and a true waste to mention it.

You're talking about defense in a comparison between him and Bobby Portis? Have you actually ever watched Bobby Portis play?

The garbage assessment is simply an assessment made by a guy that admittedly doesn't watch the games.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:56 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
IMU wrote:
What does Lavine do wildly better than Portis?

Score. Shoots higher percentage from 3. Look at his career avg and contrast it with Portis's. No comparison. Also a better passer. Higher Basketball IQ too.

I'd take Jabari Parker in a heartbeat over Bobby Portis also.


You're fighting a losing battle here. Jabari Parker is the most irrelevant player on quite possibly the most irrelevant Bulls team in history. Only the 1999 team comes close to matching this garbage team in futility. Parker got a conditional deal to join the worst team in the league. He might be jobless in two years unless learns the concept of defense.


What do you know you don't watch the Bulls remember?

Also I will place a bet that he is on an NBA roster in 2 years. What say you?


I watch enough to know he sucks. I said he may be jobless - he's still young enough to play and there are too many dumb GMs that are willing to take a flyer on him. But he should be jobless if the world was just.



There is not a chance in hell that he will be out the league in 2 years so its silly and a true waste to mention it.

You're talking about defense in a comparison between him and Bobby Portis? Have you actually ever watched Bobby Portis play?

The garbage assessment is simply an assessment made by a guy that admittedly doesn't watch the games.


Looks like you don't watch the posts you respond to. When the hell did I mention Bobby Portis? Jabari Parker sucks and should be expelled from the city due to his thoughts on defense.

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:59 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Apparently what constitutes their best player is ever evolving.

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=115309&hilit=Bulls+best+player

I certainly don't think Bobby Portis is the Bulls best player. I don't even like Bobby Portis.

But recently he has demonstrated consistent offensive capabilities...and seems to be their top threat from 3.

Hopefully he plays the rest of the season

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:14 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:

You're fighting a losing battle here. Jabari Parker is the most irrelevant player on quite possibly the most irrelevant Bulls team in history. Only the 1999 team comes close to matching this garbage team in futility. Parker got a conditional deal to join the worst team in the league. He might be jobless in two years unless learns the concept of defense.


What do you know you don't watch the Bulls remember?

Also I will place a bet that he is on an NBA roster in 2 years. What say you?


I watch enough to know he sucks. I said he may be jobless - he's still young enough to play and there are too many dumb GMs that are willing to take a flyer on him. But he should be jobless if the world was just.



There is not a chance in hell that he will be out the league in 2 years so its silly and a true waste to mention it.

You're talking about defense in a comparison between him and Bobby Portis? Have you actually ever watched Bobby Portis play?

The garbage assessment is simply an assessment made by a guy that admittedly doesn't watch the games.


Looks like you don't watch the posts you respond to. When the hell did I mention Bobby Portis? Jabari Parker sucks and should be expelled from the city due to his thoughts on defense.


Dude do you read the things that I post or are you triggered by the mere mention of certain players "Irving" "Parker" Names?

I compared Parker to Portis. You responded to a post that compared the two players.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:18 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
Is Jabari LTG's new Josh Smith?



Josh Smith was a better player and had a better career than any of the bums that you "Lance" "MCW" "Taj" just loved.

I know its doesn't quite jive with message board narratives but he was a good player. Light years ahead of the bums you and others here fell in love with.

Author:  IMU [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:33 pm ]
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There is an argument for Taj being the superior player.

Do any of your 5 Masters degrees assist in you realizing that players can more than just 'great' or 'terrible?'

Lance is a good player to have on an NBA bench. He can do some helpful things. Taj is more than that. MCW never realized potential.

Giving an NBA player a compliment does not mean that I have him as a Top 50 NBA player.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:54 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
There is an argument for Taj being the superior player.

Do any of your 5 Masters degrees assist in you realizing that players can more than just 'great' or 'terrible?'


Lance is a good player to have on an NBA bench. He can do some helpful things. Taj is more than that. MCW never realized potential.

Giving an NBA player a compliment does not mean that I have him as a Top 50 NBA player.


Do you with your high school diploma realize that Taj is closer to terrible than he ever was to being great?

This is why your basketball thoughts are often of the idiotic variety.

There isn't a person alive other than you and a few others here would ever argue as to whether Taj was a better player than Josh Smith. Its not a discussion.

There are not many who would argue that Lance is "good". He is a professional basketball player. Thats it.

You liking guy(s) doesn't make them good. It just means you like them. For some reason you believe that your liking a guy makes them good. Lance is a bum that changes teams every year. This makes him a journeyman. Journeyman have never been good.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:58 pm ]
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I side with IMU here. If Smith ever put it together he would be better than Gibson. He was more talented. But he never did as far as I remember. That's why Gibson was arguably better at his peak because he didn't hurt his team's chances like Smith did, despite his prodigious talent

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:00 pm ]
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Josh Smith was a loser. Made everybody around him worse. Taj was the opposite. There's really no debate who the better NBA player was.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:04 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Josh Smith was a loser. Made everybody around him worse. Taj was the opposite. There's really no debate who the better NBA player was.


Do you want to place a bet as to which one has been a starter on more playoff teams?

Would you also like to place a bet as to the one that has been a starter on more teams that made it out of the first round?.


You're right. There is really no debate. Everyone knows Josh was better.

Author:  IMU [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:11 pm ]
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Will LTG admit he was wrong???

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:15 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
Will LTG admit he was wrong???



You can forget it. Josh Smith was a better player. Lance stinks and MCW was a bum.



Josh Smith was a high level starting NBA player for years. Taj Gibson has been a Bench player for the majority of his career. You sound silly but it wouldn't be the first time.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:16 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Josh Smith was a loser. Made everybody around him worse. Taj was the opposite. There's really no debate who the better NBA player was.


Do you want to place a bet as to which one has been a starter on more playoff teams?

Would you also like to place a bet as to the one that has been a starter on more teams that made it out of the first round?.


You're right. There is really no debate. Everyone knows Josh was better.


Smith and Gibson are the same age. Why has one been out of the league for two years while the other continues to thrive?

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