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Author:  BD [ Fri May 04, 2007 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Zach - Stick to football because you don't know basketball
The other day, I heard Zach talking about the Bulls...He says it should be a good series, but that the Pistons have the advantage at all 5 postions.

What ?

Needless to say, I turned off the show because the host of the show doesn't know what he's talking about.

1) I'll take Ben Wallace over Chris Webber anyday of the week.

2) Tayshaun Prince is a good player, but I think Deng is a better player.

3) Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton may be better than Kirk Hinrich and Ben Gordon, but both of them are pretty close.

The only big disparity is at PF where Rasheed Wallace has the advatange over PJ Brown.

Overall, I'd say 3-2 Detroit AND....Zach's an idiot.
Author:  IkeSouth [ Sat May 05, 2007 2:28 am ]
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i stopped listening to 670 exclusively this year solely because of their absolutely terrible bulls coverage. zach barely knows whats going on with them, and the rest DAN BERSTEIN have not a damn clue. "we cant talk about the show but we can talk about how great of a nba journalist i was" dan is such a fuckin phony when it comes to the bulls, hes not a bull fan hes a jordan fan.

WHAT THEY DONT GET IS THE PISTONS were BETTER AT ALL FIVE POSITIONS.

now, this year, THIS FUCKIN YEAR DAN. DAAAANNN THIS FUCKIN YEAR THE PISTONS ARE NOT MORE TALENTED. gimme a fuckin break HAMILTON OVER GORDON!!!?!?! HAMILTON!! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU "duuhhh he has such great lifetime stats i would love to hump him" WAKE THE FUCK UP you gotta regret sayin that shit by now ADMIT IT DICK. i cant fuckin believe i have to think about such a stupid fuckin comparison thanks don horselips what a tragic day when poor terry cant stand those loads of dried cum called your ideas anymore...
Author:  Sleuth [ Sat May 05, 2007 1:20 pm ]
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3) Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton may be better than Kirk Hinrich and Ben Gordon, but both of them are pretty close.


Pretty close? What Bulls and Pistons games were you watching this year. Gordon and Hinrich (at this point in time...ask again in a couple years) aren't anywhere near as good as Rip and Billups.
Author:  BD [ Sat May 05, 2007 1:53 pm ]
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Sleuth wrote:
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3) Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton may be better than Kirk Hinrich and Ben Gordon, but both of them are pretty close.


Pretty close? What Bulls and Pistons games were you watching this year. Gordon and Hinrich (at this point in time...ask again in a couple years) aren't anywhere near as good as Rip and Billups.


Definitely pretty close. I'm giving the edge currently to the Detroit guards, and the numbers, plus experience, tell me that Detroits guards are better, but not a landslide.

Rip Hamilton: 19.8 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 3.8 APG, 0.2 BPG, 0.8 SPG, 2.1 TPG
Chauncey Billups: 17.0 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 7.2 APG, 0.2 BPG, 1.2 SPG, 2.0 TPG

Kirk Hinrich: 16.6 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 6.3 APG, 0.2 BPG, 1.3 SPG, 2.4 TPG
Ben Gordon: 21.4 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 2.9 APG, 0.1 BPG, 0.8 SPG, 3.0 TPG

Against Detroit:
Gordon:
Jan 6: 23 pts, 3 reb, 4 ast
Feb 25: 21 pts, 2 reb, 0 ast
March 29: 25 pts, 3 reb, 2 ast
April 4: 2 pts, 3 reb, 1 ast (12 min - 4 PF)

Hinrich:
Jan 6: 6 pts, 5 reb, 7 ast
Feb 25: 6 pts, 3 reb, 8 ast
March 29: 15 pts, 1 reb, 8 ast
April 4: 29 pts, 3 reb, 8 ast

Against Chicago:
Billups:
Jan 6: DNP
Feb 25: 15 pts, 1 reb, 9 ast
March 29: 12 pts, 4 reb, 7 ast
April 4: 17, 1 reb, 2 ast

Hamilton:
Jan 6: 27 pts, 4 reb, 6 ast
Feb 25: 22 pts, 4 reb, 3 ast
March 29: DNP
April 4: 3 pts, 3 reb, 1 ast
Author:  rummy [ Mon May 07, 2007 11:09 am ]
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PM?
Author:  mr_gimp [ Mon May 07, 2007 12:04 pm ]
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the one factor that those stats don't compare is defense.

Billups and Hamilton are far and away better defenders than Hinrich and Gordon.

Hinrich is slightly above average, but he commits too many stupid fouls early in games. Don't get me started about Gordon, he is a human sieve. He will get posted up this entire series.

Deng is so-so, but he is a horrible dribbler. Watch how many times he puts the ball on the floor and gets it slapped away by Prince.
Author:  Sleuth [ Mon May 07, 2007 10:15 pm ]
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3) Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton may be better than Kirk Hinrich and Ben Gordon, but both of them are pretty close.


Would you like to retract this statement yet BD? Go on, I'll hang up and listen for your answser.
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