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Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:29 am ]
Post subject:  Another Shitshow in 2019-20

I cannot believe I allowed hope to sprout in my Bulls garden. What a fucking joke. This team looks as bad as last year if not worse. Markkanen looks no better than his first game in the NBA. Looks like one of those weight lifting dopes that only works on his arms. now he can't even shoot. Porter is done at 26. Coby is going to get the Bulls taint that eveyone gets. Lavine is the exact same terrible basketball player. Its a fucking disaster.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Its basketball . Who cares ?

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

badrogue17 wrote:
Its basketball . Who cares ?


Couldn't the same thing (to a much larger extent) be said about the twitter account of Julie DiCaro?

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

They'll be better than they were last year.

Carter has played well so far, and White has been good.

Lavine and Lauri struggling in 2 of the 3 games is not good, but they'll be better.

The franchise won't will a championship any time soon. But they can be fun to watch.

Hopefully.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Carter. forgot about him. he's about as dynamic as Dave Corzine without the shooting touch.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Terry's Peeps wrote:
They'll be better than they were last year.

Carter has played well so far, and White has been good.

Lavine and Lauri struggling in 2 of the 3 games is not good, but they'll be better.

The franchise won't will a championship any time soon. But they can be fun to watch.

Hopefully.


I have always given Paxson the benefit of the doubt but i can't anymore. He needs to go.

They aren't going to be good til they make a change with management and possibly ownership.

You can't hire a rookie head coach when you are heavily dependent on young players. A rookie coach that wasn't successful at the college level.

Porter deal was a bad deal.

Passing on Porter Jr was a mistake.

Miscasting Satoransky and trying to sell him as a starting level point guard is a mistake.


Too many mistakes for them to be even remotely considered good.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Oh make no mistake, they're a long way from good.

But I'll watch more than last year.

And that's all I care about for the Bulls.

Get me through the winter into Spring Training.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Terry's Peeps wrote:
Oh make no mistake, they're a long way from good.

But I'll watch more than last year.

And that's all I care about for the Bulls.

Get me through the winter into Spring Training.


I don't think they will win over 30 games this year.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

I was just hoping they'd make a run at .500. that was a pipe dream.

Satoransky is about the 10th biggest problem they have.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

long time guy wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Oh make no mistake, they're a long way from good.

But I'll watch more than last year.

And that's all I care about for the Bulls.

Get me through the winter into Spring Training.


I don't think they will win over 30 games this year.


Really?

Damn I was hoping for maybe 34-37 wins.

Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

long time guy wrote:
Porter deal was a bad deal.



That one seemed to have Jerry's fingerprints on it (basically prevented them from having enough money to sign any max players).

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Porter looked great the first 10 games he played last year. then he was "hurt" and didn't even finish the season. apparently he is still "hurt" with some unknown problem. he plays like he has a late-stage terminal illness.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Hatchetman wrote:
I was just hoping they'd make a run at .500. that was a pipe dream.

Satoransky is about the 10th biggest problem they have.


No he isn't. If Kris Dunn was considered a big problem then so should he. Dunn is better than Satoransky.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:33 pm ]
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They will be good..paitence..too much talent

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

long time guy wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I was just hoping they'd make a run at .500. that was a pipe dream.

Satoransky is about the 10th biggest problem they have.


No he isn't. If Kris Dunn was considered a big problem then so should he. Dunn is better than Satoransky.


neither of them should be starters. Coby should start and take his lumps. Sato is going to have to play some three when Porter finally kicks the bucket.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Hatchetman wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I was just hoping they'd make a run at .500. that was a pipe dream.

Satoransky is about the 10th biggest problem they have.


No he isn't. If Kris Dunn was considered a big problem then so should he. Dunn is better than Satoransky.


neither of them should be starters. Coby should start and take his lumps. Sato is going to have to play some three when Porter finally kicks the bucket.


Coby White isn't a point and placing him to run a directionless team only adds to the dysfunction.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

he's averaging more assists than Dunn.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Hatchetman wrote:
he's averaging more assists than Dunn.


After only 3 games. He had games of no assists and one assist during the preseason. There is nothing about his game that suggests he is a point.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

long time guy wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
he's averaging more assists than Dunn.


After only 3 games. He had games of no assists and one assist during the preseason. There is nothing about his game that suggests he is a point.


Have you actually watched any of the games this year?

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Hatchetman wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
he's averaging more assists than Dunn.


After only 3 games. He had games of no assists and one assist during the preseason. There is nothing about his game that suggests he is a point.


Have you actually watched any of the games this year?


Yeah i have and he shoots. A lot. He seems to be more of a scorer than anything.

He isn't ready to run an NBA team.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

This isn't an NBA team. Let him play. Nothing wrong with a shoot first point guard especially when he's your best/smartest player.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Hatchetman wrote:
This isn't an NBA team. Let him play. Nothing wrong with a shoot first point guard especially when he's your best/smartest player.


He isn't their best player. Lavine is and he (White) has had two good games. Might want to pump the brakes a little.

Markkanen is their 2nd best player. This kid has been a nice story or a pleasant surprise and thats about it.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

He has potential FAR exceeding anyone else on the team. He can score any which way and plays very good defense. Dude is going to be a star unless the Bulls fuck it up. Which they probably will.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Hatchetman wrote:
He has potential FAR exceeding anyone else on the team. He can score any which way and plays very good defense. Dude is going to be a star unless the Bulls fuck it up. Which they probably will.


By allowing Boylen to continue coaching him they already have.

Author:  Erotic Lawyer [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

long time guy wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
They'll be better than they were last year.

Carter has played well so far, and White has been good.

Lavine and Lauri struggling in 2 of the 3 games is not good, but they'll be better.

The franchise won't will a championship any time soon. But they can be fun to watch.

Hopefully.


I have always given Paxson the benefit of the doubt but i can't anymore. He needs to go.

They aren't going to be good til they make a change with management and possibly ownership.

You can't hire a rookie head coach when you are heavily dependent on young players. A rookie coach that wasn't successful at the college level.

Porter deal was a bad deal.

Passing on Porter Jr was a mistake.

Miscasting Satoransky and trying to sell him as a starting level point guard is a mistake.


Too many mistakes for them to be even remotely considered good.



Just now you are starting to doubt Paxson? Not choking Vinny or hiring Vinny which
Pax deserved to get choked for hisself. Letting Gar make decisions, like Hoiberg and Doug McBuckets.

Neither Porter Jr choices were bad except Otto is more injured than Michael now. OPJ was fine and a very very Bulls move. If he is hurt oh well he cost nothing but Jabari...

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Erotic Lawyer wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
They'll be better than they were last year.

Carter has played well so far, and White has been good.

Lavine and Lauri struggling in 2 of the 3 games is not good, but they'll be better.

The franchise won't will a championship any time soon. But they can be fun to watch.

Hopefully.


I have always given Paxson the benefit of the doubt but i can't anymore. He needs to go.

They aren't going to be good til they make a change with management and possibly ownership.

You can't hire a rookie head coach when you are heavily dependent on young players. A rookie coach that wasn't successful at the college level.

Porter deal was a bad deal.

Passing on Porter Jr was a mistake.

Miscasting Satoransky and trying to sell him as a starting level point guard is a mistake.


Too many mistakes for them to be even remotely considered good.



Just now you are starting to doubt Paxson? Not choking Vinny or hiring Vinny which
Pax deserved to get choked for hisself. Letting Gar make decisions, like Hoiberg and Doug McBuckets.

Neither Porter Jr choices were bad except Otto is more injured than Michael now. OPJ was fine and a very very Bulls move. If he is hurt oh well he cost nothing but Jabari...


I always gave Paxson credit for rebuilding the Bulls. He wasn't terrible in the beginning. He has been bad over the past 4-5 years though. Whacking the overrated Thibs was a good move and i don't think Hoiberg was a terrible move.

He rarely if ever had a full roster available and his best player was a cancer.

Otto Porter is vastly overpaid and a worse player than Jabari Parker. He was a salary dump for Washington.

Author:  Nardi [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

long time guy wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I was just hoping they'd make a run at .500. that was a pipe dream.

Satoransky is about the 10th biggest problem they have.


No he isn't. If Kris Dunn was considered a big problem then so should he. Dunn is better than Satoransky.


neither of them should be starters. Coby should start and take his lumps. Sato is going to have to play some three when Porter finally kicks the bucket.


Coby White isn't a point and placing him to run a directionless team only adds to the dysfunction.

That's why you trade Lavine by the deadline. I've had enough of his directionless play.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Nardi wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I was just hoping they'd make a run at .500. that was a pipe dream.

Satoransky is about the 10th biggest problem they have.


No he isn't. If Kris Dunn was considered a big problem then so should he. Dunn is better than Satoransky.


neither of them should be starters. Coby should start and take his lumps. Sato is going to have to play some three when Porter finally kicks the bucket.


Coby White isn't a point and placing him to run a directionless team only adds to the dysfunction.

That's why you trade Lavine by the deadline. I've had enough of his directionless play.


For what and whom?

The Bulls have a bad college coach coaching in the NBA. Thats their biggest problem.

The only game they have won occurred with Lavine as their best player.

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

Hatchetman wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I was just hoping they'd make a run at .500. that was a pipe dream.

Satoransky is about the 10th biggest problem they have.


No he isn't. If Kris Dunn was considered a big problem then so should he. Dunn is better than Satoransky.


neither of them should be starters. Coby should start and take his lumps. Sato is going to have to play some three when Porter finally kicks the bucket.

:lol:

Author:  Nardi [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Shitshow in 2019-20

long time guy wrote:
Nardi wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I was just hoping they'd make a run at .500. that was a pipe dream.

Satoransky is about the 10th biggest problem they have.


No he isn't. If Kris Dunn was considered a big problem then so should he. Dunn is better than Satoransky.


neither of them should be starters. Coby should start and take his lumps. Sato is going to have to play some three when Porter finally kicks the bucket.


Coby White isn't a point and placing him to run a directionless team only adds to the dysfunction.

That's why you trade Lavine by the deadline. I've had enough of his directionless play.


For what and whom?

The Bulls have a bad college coach coaching in the NBA. Thats their biggest problem.

The only game they have won occurred with Lavine as their best player.

I didn't say Lavine is their biggest problem. I said he's directionless. He plays his own game and I'm not down with it.

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