Douchebag wrote:
Bulls medical staff would give him a spinal tap and get him fixed up in no time.
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
How much better would the Bull's future look if they had those 2 guys as opposed to the 2 guys they selected? |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Your first mistake is assuming those guys develop with the Bulls. Especially when you include injury rehab. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Yes, think where the Bulls would be with those 4 points and 2 rebounds per game. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
conns7901 wrote: Your first mistake is assuming those guys develop with the Bulls. Especially when you include injury rehab. I can't assume they won't. I will just look at where they are now and presume the same would have occurred had they been with the Bulls. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
long time guy wrote: conns7901 wrote: Your first mistake is assuming those guys develop with the Bulls. Especially when you include injury rehab. I can't assume they won't. I will just look at where they are now and presume the same would have occurred had they been with the Bulls. That’s a bad presumption given our front office, coaching staff, and medical staff. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Caller Bob wrote: Yes, think where the Bulls would be with those 4 points and 2 rebounds per game. Michael Porter is on a contending team. His minutes and production will increase as they season progresses. Plus he is playing behind a solid 3 man in Will Barton. Wendell Carter Jr. is a default center on a team where the 2nd best is a backup 2nd round draft choice |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
There is nothing to suggest at this point that MPJ will be a great player. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: conns7901 wrote: Your first mistake is assuming those guys develop with the Bulls. Especially when you include injury rehab. I can't assume they won't. I will just look at where they are now and presume the same would have occurred had they been with the Bulls. That’s a bad presumption given our front office, coaching staff, and medical staff. I will be able to live with that. I like Lauri but Bam is a decidedly better pro right now and I MPJ will be decidedly better than Wendell by this time next year. If the Bulls had these two guys their future would be much brighter. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Caller Bob wrote: There is nothing to suggest at this point that MPJ will be a great player. His talent suggests that. WCJ looks like a rotation player on a good team. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
A mannequin off State Street would be an improvement over Lauri. That 2017 draft was horrible. WCJ is fine as your fourth best guy. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: conns7901 wrote: Your first mistake is assuming those guys develop with the Bulls. Especially when you include injury rehab. I can't assume they won't. I will just look at where they are now and presume the same would have occurred had they been with the Bulls. That’s a bad presumption given our front office, coaching staff, and medical staff. I will be able to live with that. I like Lauri but Bam is a decidedly better pro right now and I MPJ will be decidedly better than Wendell by this time next year. If the Bulls had these two guys their future would be much brighter. Bam is unquestionably better right now but you're looking at this wrong. Guys like him and Kendrick Nunn develop better in Miami, because they are a better organization top to bottom than the Bulls and really it's not close. It's impossible to determine how he would have developed on teams like the Bulls or Knicks. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Eirk Spoelstra is goofy looking but man, it looks like that guy can coach the hell out of it. |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
The Heat poached Nunn from the Golden State system. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: conns7901 wrote: Your first mistake is assuming those guys develop with the Bulls. Especially when you include injury rehab. I can't assume they won't. I will just look at where they are now and presume the same would have occurred had they been with the Bulls. That’s a bad presumption given our front office, coaching staff, and medical staff. I will be able to live with that. I like Lauri but Bam is a decidedly better pro right now and I MPJ will be decidedly better than Wendell by this time next year. If the Bulls had these two guys their future would be much brighter. Bam is unquestionably better right now but you're looking at this wrong. Guys like him and Kendrick Nunn develop better in Miami, because they are a better organization top to bottom than the Bulls and really it's not close. It's impossible to determine how he would have developed on teams like the Bulls or Knicks. Miami didn't develop Kendrick Nunn. They recognized his talent. Bam was probably better than Lauri in college also. He was a top 5-10 guy coming out of high school. The Bulls like MANY fell in love with a 7 footer that shoots 3 but failed to see that their is more to the game than that. Bam better at every facet of the game besides that. I'd rather take the chance that they draft them and don't develop as opposed to not drafting them at all. WCJ is an extremely limited basketball player that happens to be undersized for his position. The Biggest mistake that they make continue to make happens to do with player evaluation. Their evaluations of players has been bad ever since Forman has been GM. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
When Michael Porter Jr is putting up 25 and 10, then I will start pitching a fit. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Hussra wrote: The Heat poached Nunn from the Golden State system. Yep. He should have made G.S.'s team last year. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Caller Bob wrote: When Michael Porter Jr is putting up 25 and 10, then I will start pitching a fit. It will already have been too late by then. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
13 teams wrongly passed on Bam then. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
long time guy wrote: Caller Bob wrote: When Michael Porter Jr is putting up 25 and 10, then I will start pitching a fit. It will already have been too late by then. His back is all fucked up |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
If Lauri was on the Heat and Bam was on the Bulls this thread would still exist but would look the opposite |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Caller Bob wrote: long time guy wrote: Caller Bob wrote: When Michael Porter Jr is putting up 25 and 10, then I will start pitching a fit. It will already have been too late by then. His back is all fucked up Bulls medical staff would give him a spinal tap and get him fixed up in no time. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Hatchetman wrote: 13 teams wrongly passed on Bam then. No they didn't. There were guys in that draft (Tatum, Mitchell) that have turned out to be solid pros. Lauri isn't a bum its just that Bam is better. I can't worry about the others that missed. Paxson and Forman keep missing. That is the problem. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Douchebag wrote: Bulls medical staff would give him a spinal tap and get him fixed up in no time.
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Lauri has some sort of heart condition or mental illness. That couldn't have been predicted. Guys don't all of a sudden lose their game at 22. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
A year ago, if you polled 100 NBA execs I bet not a single one would have taken Bam over Lauri. In fact in redo's of the 17 draft last year, Lauri was most often the 2nd or 3rd pick. Yes, right now his stock is rock bottom. I still blame the stink of Boylen. |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Hatchetman wrote: Lauri has some sort of heart condition or mental illness. That couldn't have been predicted. Guys don't all of a sudden lose their game at 22. seriously? Did you SEE HIM PLAY IN COLLEGE?  He is exactly what I thought he would be. And Carter will be just fine, he was a good pick in my book. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Caller Bob wrote: A year ago, if you polled 100 NBA execs I bet not a single one would have taken Bam over Lauri. In fact in redo's of the 17 draft last year, Lauri was most often the 2nd or 3rd pick. Yes, right now his stock is rock bottom. I still blame the stink of Boylen. I blame Boylen for some of it but there are some things you can't pin on him. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
long time guy wrote: Caller Bob wrote: A year ago, if you polled 100 NBA execs I bet not a single one would have taken Bam over Lauri. In fact in redo's of the 17 draft last year, Lauri was most often the 2nd or 3rd pick. Yes, right now his stock is rock bottom. I still blame the stink of Boylen. I blame Boylen for some of it but there are some things you can't pin on him. It's a fluid league man, and too often we anoint guys too quickly same for burying them..hey we have tried to help No Great Shakes pump the breaks on Trae Young, but he just ain't having it. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
City of Fools wrote: Hatchetman wrote: Lauri has some sort of heart condition or mental illness. That couldn't have been predicted. Guys don't all of a sudden lose their game at 22. seriously? Did you SEE HIM PLAY IN COLLEGE? He is exactly what I thought he would be. And Carter will be just fine, he was a good pick in my book. No I saw him play his first year and a half in the NBA. He's a different guy today. He's gained like 20-30 pounds so maybe that resulted in him losing a couple of steps. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bam Adebayo/Michael Porter Jr. VS. WCJ/Lauri |
Caller Bob wrote: long time guy wrote: Caller Bob wrote: A year ago, if you polled 100 NBA execs I bet not a single one would have taken Bam over Lauri. In fact in redo's of the 17 draft last year, Lauri was most often the 2nd or 3rd pick. Yes, right now his stock is rock bottom. I still blame the stink of Boylen. I blame Boylen for some of it but there are some things you can't pin on him. It's a fluid league man, and too often we anoint guys too quickly same for burying them..hey we have tried to help No Great Shakes pump the breaks on Trae Young, but he just ain't having it. Lauri didn't really play all that well down the stretch last season either. When I look at his tools they don't compare to What Bam Adebayo does on a nightly basis. I don't expect that to change in the very near future either. |
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