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The Legacy Of Jerry Krause
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Author:  long time guy [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:19 pm ]
Post subject:  The Legacy Of Jerry Krause
What exactly was it? Great GM? Good GM? Bad GM? Overrated GM?
Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:27 pm ]
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Insecure guy who couldn't handle success.

That history will/has crush(ed) him this hard isn't that equitable though.
Author:  Rod [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:28 pm ]
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Good GM that did a great job surrounding a great player with the right guys necessary to win.
Author:  Nas [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:30 pm ]
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Good GM but always wanted to be the greatest scout.
Author:  Darkside [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:30 pm ]
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Good GM. Got pretty lucky at times but you make your own luck. He held grudges. He had tremendous jowels. He once ate a whole side of beef.
Author:  Nas [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:33 pm ]
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Hearing that Tim Floyd and Uncle Jerry had to convince him not to replace Phil during the 1996 NBA Finals is hilarious.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:35 pm ]
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Good GM who let his insecurities overcome him.

His drafts were pretty bad outside of 87.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:37 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Good GM who let his insecurities overcome him.

His drafts were pretty bad outside of 87.


Check my avatar and revise your post.

For shame
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Legacy Of Jerry Krause
Got him in the vastly overrated camp. Bulls won with him but not necessarily because of him. Post Jordan era was horrendous and extremely reflective of his talents as a GM
Author:  veganfan21 [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:38 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
Got him in the vastly overrated camp. Bulls won with him but not necessarily because of him. Post Jordan era was horrendous and extremely reflective of his talents as a GM

This is a bad thought.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:41 pm ]
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Good guy , bought dessert .
Author:  Rod [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:41 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Good GM but always wanted to be the greatest scout.



Yeah. He was like the modern fantasy player. He always wanted to find the guy no one else knew about. The problem with that is that 99 out of 100 times the reason no one knows about a guy is because he sucks.
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:43 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Got him in the vastly overrated camp. Bulls won with him but not necessarily because of him. Post Jordan era was horrendous and extremely reflective of his talents as a GM

This is a bad thought.


If have the facts to back it up.
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:44 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Good GM but always wanted to be the greatest scout.



Yeah. He was like the modern fantasy player. He always wanted to find the guy no one else knew about. The problem with that is that 99 out of 100 times the reason no one knows about a guy is because he sucks.


He definitely took his "Sleuth" persona a little too far at times.
Author:  newper [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:44 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The problem with that is that 99 out of 100 times the reason no one knows about a guy is because he sucks.

Yes a thousand times. Everybody thinks they are better than everybody else, but probably not, and luck drives so much of it that you really can't tell.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Legacy Of Jerry Krause
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Good GM but always wanted to be the greatest scout.



Yeah. He was like the modern fantasy player. He always wanted to find the guy no one else knew about. The problem with that is that 99 out of 100 times the reason no one knows about a guy is because he sucks.


Maybe 97 times out of 100. He liked Kukoc, Mcgrady and Pippen.
Author:  Nas [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:45 pm ]
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He was right about McGrady, but that would have ended the dynasty.
Author:  Nas [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:46 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Good GM but always wanted to be the greatest scout.



Yeah. He was like the modern fantasy player. He always wanted to find the guy no one else knew about. The problem with that is that 99 out of 100 times the reason no one knows about a guy is because he sucks.


Maybe 97 times out of 100. He liked Kukoc, Mcgrady and Pippen.


Add Phil Jackson to the list.
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:48 pm ]
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He was terrible at basketball scouting. Regarded as a very good baseball scout though
Author:  Nas [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:51 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
He was terrible at basketball scouting. Regarded as a very good baseball scout though


I think he died scouting for the Yankees.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:52 pm ]
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He was an asshole who could’ve been a lot more successful if he was half as smart as he thought he was.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:52 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Good GM but always wanted to be the greatest scout.



Yeah. He was like the modern fantasy player. He always wanted to find the guy no one else knew about. The problem with that is that 99 out of 100 times the reason no one knows about a guy is because he sucks.


Maybe 97 times out of 100. He liked Kukoc, Mcgrady and Pippen.


Add Phil Jackson to the list.


And Harold Baines.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Legacy Of Jerry Krause
FavreFan wrote:
He was an asshole who could’ve been a lot more successful if he was half as smart as he thought he was.


He was an asshole but he was pretty damn successful. He found spot up shooters all the damn time.
Author:  Rod [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:54 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Nas wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Good GM but always wanted to be the greatest scout.



Yeah. He was like the modern fantasy player. He always wanted to find the guy no one else knew about. The problem with that is that 99 out of 100 times the reason no one knows about a guy is because he sucks.


Maybe 97 times out of 100. He liked Kukoc, Mcgrady and Pippen.


Add Phil Jackson to the list.


And Harold Baines.



Baines was Bill Veeck's neighbor.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:55 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
He was an asshole who could’ve been a lot more successful if he was half as smart as he thought he was.


He was an asshole but he was pretty damn successful. He found spot up shooters all the damn time.

:lol: That’s not really hard to do. He inherited the GOAT and made a few really good moves, most importantly the Pippen one. Who knows how successful he would’ve been if he didn’t blow that up.
Author:  Nas [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:55 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Nas wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Good GM but always wanted to be the greatest scout.



Yeah. He was like the modern fantasy player. He always wanted to find the guy no one else knew about. The problem with that is that 99 out of 100 times the reason no one knows about a guy is because he sucks.


Maybe 97 times out of 100. He liked Kukoc, Mcgrady and Pippen.


Add Phil Jackson to the list.


And Harold Baines.


Didn't know that.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:56 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Good GM who let his insecurities overcome him.

His drafts were pretty bad outside of 87.


Check my avatar and revise your post.

For shame


That does count, and he obviously gets credit for Toni.

I was speaking more in terms of first round picks.
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:56 pm ]
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He wasn't even the guy that "discovered" Pippen either.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Legacy Of Jerry Krause
FavreFan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
He was an asshole who could’ve been a lot more successful if he was half as smart as he thought he was.


He was an asshole but he was pretty damn successful. He found spot up shooters all the damn time.

:lol: That’s not really hard to do. He inherited the GOAT and made a few really good moves, most importantly the Pippen one. Who knows how successful he would’ve been if he didn’t blow that up.


Jordan wasn't goat when Krause came on board. The few really good moves you mean are two different teams that won three rings each.
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:01 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
He was an asshole who could’ve been a lot more successful if he was half as smart as he thought he was.


He was an asshole but he was pretty damn successful. He found spot up shooters all the damn time.

:lol: That’s not really hard to do. He inherited the GOAT and made a few really good moves, most importantly the Pippen one. Who knows how successful he would’ve been if he didn’t blow that up.


Jordan wasn't goat when Krause came on board. The few really good moves you mean are two different teams that won three rings each.


Jordan had only been in the league for a year when Krause came aboard.
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