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| Author: | Liberal Lion [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
This is LTG. I had Jorr deactivate the account so I logged in under another name. I know its sort of fashionable to diss tanking around here but tanking works. I always has and always will. The Bulls have 6 rings due to tanking. Here is the proof. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/new ... f0mwz7jrtd |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Carmelo Anthony sucks. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Long Time Guy sucks |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
I've never met a liberal lion. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
| This was the topic you chose for your grand return? Hit up the Patrick Williams and NBA Draft threads |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
This isn't LTG btw, Sanfratellos? Come one now... |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Quote: the Bulls had a terrible season—they were 21-28 before dealing Theus and 6-27 after I think I went to a couple of those games later in the season when the Stadium was almost empty. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
this is proof that polls on this board are skewed by fake posters. |
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| Author: | Crick Ramp [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Jordan wouldn’t win 1 title today |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Crick Ramp wrote: Jordan wouldn’t win 1 title today Yup. He'd win at least 9. |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Crick Ramp wrote: Jordan wouldn’t win 1 title today Of course not, he’s 57 years old. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
That isn't proof they tanked. I loved Reggie but I think he was deep into that culture the Jordan described in The Last Dance that was present when he arrived. |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
But back to OP, tanking definitely works. Probably more in the NBA than anywhere else, where you typically can’t win a title without an all time great (or two) on the roster. But it absolutely sucks in real time and makes watching the game a miserable experience. |
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| Author: | Liberal Lion [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
FavreFan wrote: :lol: This was the topic you chose for your grand return? Hit up the Patrick Williams and NBA Draft threads I know you are an anti tank guy so figured it was time to debunk this pernicious myth once and for all. Quote: Of course, the Bulls had a terrible season—they were 21-28 before dealing Theus and 6-27 after. That put them into the third spot in the 1984 draft, which turned out to be the spot at which they drafted a shooting guard out of North Carolina named Michael Jordan, changing the future of the franchise (and the league) forever.
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Players now treat the NBA like AAU. After a few years they leave to join with a different groups of friends. Free agency and forcing trades is the new tanking. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Liberal Lion wrote: FavreFan wrote: :lol: This was the topic you chose for your grand return? Hit up the Patrick Williams and NBA Draft threads I know you are an anti tank guy so figured it was time to debunk this pernicious myth once and for all. Quote: Of course, the Bulls had a terrible season—they were 21-28 before dealing Theus and 6-27 after. That put them into the third spot in the 1984 draft, which turned out to be the spot at which they drafted a shooting guard out of North Carolina named Michael Jordan, changing the future of the franchise (and the league) forever. That isn't tanking.
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Not sure I'd call blowing up a team that wasn't going anywhere half way through the year tanking, but wouldn't really care if someone else did. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Liberal Lion wrote: I know you are an anti tank guy Every real sports fan is an anti tank guy. |
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| Author: | Crick Ramp [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
This Ends in Antioch wrote: Crick Ramp wrote: Jordan wouldn’t win 1 title today Of course not, he’s 57 years old. Bu can he still beat LaVar? That’s all that matters. After all, LaVar said he’d just back MJ down into the post and deliver sky hooks. |
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| Author: | Liberal Lion [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Brick wrote: Liberal Lion wrote: FavreFan wrote: :lol: This was the topic you chose for your grand return? Hit up the Patrick Williams and NBA Draft threads I know you are an anti tank guy so figured it was time to debunk this pernicious myth once and for all. Quote: Of course, the Bulls had a terrible season—they were 21-28 before dealing Theus and 6-27 after. That put them into the third spot in the 1984 draft, which turned out to be the spot at which they drafted a shooting guard out of North Carolina named Michael Jordan, changing the future of the franchise (and the league) forever. That isn't tanking. How isn't this tanking? |
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| Author: | Liberal Lion [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
good dolphin wrote: That isn't proof they tanked. I loved Reggie but I think he was deep into that culture the Jordan described in The Last Dance that was present when he arrived. How isn't this tanking? |
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| Author: | Liberal Lion [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
FavreFan wrote: Liberal Lion wrote: I know you are an anti tank guy Every real sports fan is an anti tank guy. Real Sports fans don't wear plaid though. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Liberal Lion wrote: How isn't this tanking? Tanking involves intentionally losing for 1, but most likely more than 1 season in order to be good some point in the future. Trading away your best player during the season when you've proven you aren't going to be good this year is not tanking.
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| Author: | RFDC [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
So is this really LTG? Can we get a confirmation on this? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Brick wrote: Liberal Lion wrote: How isn't this tanking? Tanking involves intentionally losing for 1, but most likely more than 1 season in order to be good some point in the future.That's a weird definition you have cultivated in an attempt to isolate Theo as the tanker in chief Tanking: Not trying to win as much as possible because it helps your draft position Its that simple. If the Bulls reason for trading Theus inuded any reasoning about the draft, it was tanking. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
After the 1984 coin flip, which was won by the Houston Rockets, the NBA introduced the lottery system to counter the accusations that the Rockets and several other teams were deliberately losing their regular season games in order to secure the worst record and consequently the chance to obtain the first pick.[2][3] The lottery system involved a random drawing of an envelope from a hopper. Inside each of the envelopes was the name of a non-playoff team. The team whose envelope was drawn first would get the first pick. The process was then repeated until the rest of the lottery picks were determined. In this system, each non-playoff team had an equal chance to obtain the first pick. The rest of the first-round picks were determined in reverse order of the win-loss record.[4] |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
rogers park bryan wrote: Brick wrote: Liberal Lion wrote: How isn't this tanking? Tanking involves intentionally losing for 1, but most likely more than 1 season in order to be good some point in the future.That's a weird definition you have cultivated in an attempt to isolate Theo as the tanker in chief Tanking: Not trying to win as much as possible because it helps your draft position Its that simple. If the Bulls reason for trading Theus inuded any reasoning about the draft, it was tanking. Yeah I’d think that intentionally making a bad team worse fits the bill. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
rogers park bryan wrote: Brick wrote: Liberal Lion wrote: How isn't this tanking? Tanking involves intentionally losing for 1, but most likely more than 1 season in order to be good some point in the future.That's a weird definition you have cultivated in an attempt to isolate Theo as the tanker in chief Tanking: Not trying to win as much as possible because it helps your draft position Its that simple. If the Bulls reason for trading Theus inuded any reasoning about the draft, it was tanking. I don't view a trade deadline deal in a season where you aren't winning while trying to win as tanking. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Brick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Brick wrote: Liberal Lion wrote: How isn't this tanking? Tanking involves intentionally losing for 1, but most likely more than 1 season in order to be good some point in the future.That's a weird definition you have cultivated in an attempt to isolate Theo as the tanker in chief Tanking: Not trying to win as much as possible because it helps your draft position Its that simple. If the Bulls reason for trading Theus inuded any reasoning about the draft, it was tanking. No, it's not. It's the widely accepted and logical definition. If you're trying to win every game you are not tanking If you don't mind losing because it improves your draft position, its tanking. And most often it's just a one year thing targeting a certain player. |
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| Author: | Liberal Lion [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls tanked in order to draft Jordan |
Brick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Brick wrote: Liberal Lion wrote: How isn't this tanking? Tanking involves intentionally losing for 1, but most likely more than 1 season in order to be good some point in the future.That's a weird definition you have cultivated in an attempt to isolate Theo as the tanker in chief Tanking: Not trying to win as much as possible because it helps your draft position Its that simple. If the Bulls reason for trading Theus inuded any reasoning about the draft, it was tanking. I don't view a trade deadline deal in a season where you aren't winning while trying to win as tanking. What type of voodoo math are you using Brick? They were 27-55 that year and your conception of tanking is rather skewed to put it lightly. You also contradict yourself by stating that they " weren't going to win that year". This is all the more reason that I know I am correct about this. |
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