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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Seeing a lot of talk on twitter about either Lonzo Ball or Dennis Schroder. Are either of them the answer for the Bulls? Schroder has a close relationship with Donovan which may impact things. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
If Schroder is the answer then we might has well have Gar/Pax back. |
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| Author: | The Missing Link [ Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
RFDC wrote: Seeing a lot of talk on twitter about either Lonzo Ball or Dennis Schroder. Are either of them the answer for the Bulls? Schroder has a close relationship with Donovan which may impact things. Not really but both would be an upgrade over Coby White who sucks. The asking price for both is too high but if I had my choice it would be easily Schroeder. Most people are clamoring for Lonzo on the Bulls for some strange reason. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Laker fans seem happy Schroder is leaving. |
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| Author: | The Missing Link [ Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
conns7901 wrote: Laker fans seem happy Schroder is leaving. Yeah that went bad fast. He might be asking for too much and his analytics do not grade out very well. Any point guard that plays alongside Lebron will have problems because he is in effect the point guard. Rondo managed ok but he came off the bench for the most part. He would be a huge upgrade over whatever it is the Bulls currently have at the position however. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
| Author: | FavreFan [ Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
From what I was reading it sounds like that money is going to Schroder or Lonzo. Much prefer Lonzo but it really doesn’t matter. It’s going to be several years before the bulls are good regardless. |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
FavreFan wrote: From what I was reading it sounds like that money is going to Schroder or Lonzo. Much prefer Lonzo but it really doesn’t matter. It’s going to be several years before the bulls are good regardless. If Lonzo is on the Bulls with all of the major players back (less Lauri) they will be good next season. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: FavreFan wrote: From what I was reading it sounds like that money is going to Schroder or Lonzo. Much prefer Lonzo but it really doesn’t matter. It’s going to be several years before the bulls are good regardless. If Lonzo is on the Bulls with all of the major players back (less Lauri) they will be good next season. Nah. They’re a .500 team at best without any reasonable scenario to be good before 2025 |
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| Author: | BD [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
RFDC wrote: Seeing a lot of talk on twitter about either Lonzo Ball or Dennis Schroder. Are either of them the answer for the Bulls? Schroder has a close relationship with Donovan which may impact things. Assuming that they acquire Ball and become a better team with an upgrade at PG, how much better is this team? Are they capped out for the near future and a borderline playoff-type team, assuming health? Obviously, Patrick Williams needs to become a stud to give them 3 higher-end players, but just seems like they will better, but there is a ceiling on this version. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
On paper, Ball-Lavine-Vuk looks like a really good core but I don't think the sum will equal the parts. |
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| Author: | BD [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
conns7901 wrote: Laker fans seem happy Schroder is leaving. Is Schroder just a better version of Coby White? Maybe not a perfect comparison, but he may regret turning that 4 year/80 million deal with the Lakers. I don't see how he makes much sense unless the Bulls can get him on a 1 year deal if he's squeezed by the rest of the free agents available. By the way, I just don't understand how a team like the Bulls are always near the cap while the Lakers can continue to add stars every off-season. We're stuck wit the mid-tier type free agents while teams like LAL can just re-load every off-season despite having James and Davis on that roster already. |
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| Author: | BD [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Caller Bob wrote: On paper, Ball-Lavine-Vuk looks like a really good core but I don't think the sum will equal the parts. I believe Ball is considered a solid defender, but can a team win consistently if the top two players don't play defense? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Overpaying Schroder is about the worst possible outcome this summer so that's what I believe the Bulls will do. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
FavreFan wrote: Overpaying Schroder is about the worst possible outcome this summer so that's what I believe the Bulls will do. yeah i would stay far away from him |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
FavreFan wrote: Overpaying Schroder is about the worst possible outcome this summer so that's what I believe the Bulls will do. You're living in the past. This is a new, wiser administration. Besides, Schroder wants more money than the Bulls have to spend.
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: FavreFan wrote: Overpaying Schroder is about the worst possible outcome this summer so that's what I believe the Bulls will do. You're living in the past. This is a new, wiser administration. Besides, Schroder wants more money than the Bulls have to spend.I thought that too, but the 2nd half of this past season gives me questions...They got exponentially worse after the trade deadline, Donovan reminded me of Hoiberg and they gave away Gafford who looked legit for the Bullets. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
That's not bad, I've seen worse players get more.' |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
I'm looking forward to the first Charlotte game this year now. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: FavreFan wrote: Overpaying Schroder is about the worst possible outcome this summer so that's what I believe the Bulls will do. You're living in the past. This is a new, wiser administration. Besides, Schroder wants more money than the Bulls have to spend.That Vuc trade was awful. I’ll believe this administration is better when the results on the court reflect that. So far they haven’t. You seem to be giving them credit they haven’t earned yet. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Derozan at 31 would be odd. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Caller Bob wrote: That's not bad, I've seen worse players get more.' 
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
FavreFan wrote: That Vuc trade was awful. That one is not looking good. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
conns7901 wrote: Caller Bob wrote: That's not bad, I've seen worse players get more.' Wow Good for him I guess |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Bagels wrote: conns7901 wrote: Caller Bob wrote: That's not bad, I've seen worse players get more.' Wow Good for him I guess AD getting hurt made him an extra 70 million. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
lonzo will be fun to watch. might not like to play with lavine though |
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| Author: | The Missing Link [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Caller Bob wrote: On paper, Ball-Lavine-Vuk looks like a really good core but I don't think the sum will equal the parts. Lonzo Ball Sucks. I honestly hope the Bulls don't sign him. Particularly for the coin he is asking for. Would be an upgrade over Coby but that's only because Coby blows too. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Bulls got Lonzo? Let's go. I'm in. They had me at Ayo.  They had me at Ayo.
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
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