18-49 from the field over the last 5-6 games. Looking more and more like the backup I always believed him to be.

4-5 assists per game from a dude billed to be a "great passer" when he entered the league.

And I'm trying to roll with him but for 20 million per year you have to get more bang for your buck than what he is providing.

He's gotta know to take one for the team last night.

Drop after that Embiid punch and sell that shit like you got Rudy T'd.

You watch the games ltg so stop pretending hes not a good passer and stop ignoring his non box score stat contributions like vegan mentioned. He needs to play better than he had so far and he likely will.

Wait is the argument that Ball isn’t the best PG in the league? Totally agree… 100%. Is he better than Sato? Also agree with that. He is definitely not the best PG for sure, he is a huge upgrade though and fits a lot of what this team needs. He has impact in the same way that smart and rondo do. Lot of defensive help, not the greatest offensive threat. He is paid appropriately and fits a need. Sure I would prefer the original dream team lineup, but you also can only get what you can get at any given time. Ball is fine and surely isn’t hurting this team.

You have been saying he "will" play better for 5 years

Wait is the argument that Ball isn’t the best PG in the league? Totally agree… 100%. Is he better than Sato? Also agree with that. He is definitely not the best PG for sure, he is a huge upgrade though and fits a lot of what this team needs. He has impact in the same way that smart and rondo do. Lot of defensive help, not the greatest offensive threat. He is paid appropriately and fits a need. Sure I would prefer the original dream team lineup, but you also can only get what you can get at any given time. Ball is fine and surely isn’t hurting this team.

Like 3, and guess what ltg? He's literally gotten better every single year

Really impressed with the shooting improvements that he displayed last year or the year prior. The anti-Ben Simmons in terms of work ethic and responsibility.

Incremental improvements. I'd happily take a year 2, 21 year old Tyrese Maxey over him right now. For much cheaper on a Rookie Scale Contract.

He went from a really bad pro to mediocre. Ben Simmons started really good and became All NBA in short order.

Yes, if the Bulls drafted better they could have better players on rookie contracts. They didn't though.



Guess what else he became in short order?

LTG shits on Ball but hes the same guy that has Patrick Williams pegged for the hall of fame!

His team has been in the playoffs each year he has been in the league. Ball's teams have made the playoffs when exactly?

Patrick Williams will be a better pro than Lonzo.

Great, that has nothing to do with my reply.

Your reply doesn't actually have a point. That's why.

If AK offered Ball for Simmons the laughter from Morey would blow him outta of the UC and into the Chicago River.

You would acquire Ben Simmons right now?

And what would you do to ensure he doesn't pout his way out of the city because someone said something mean to him. That's basically what he's doing right now in Philly. Oh, and what are you going to do when he refuses to work on something a coach directed him to work on. That's sort of his thing

Probably nothing. Unlike you I don't get caught up in melodrama. I look at talent. And he is it. You place him on this team and they become title contenders overnight.

He doesn't need a jump shot to be a very good player. He is already very good. Like I told FF in the playoffs he needs to shoot free throws at a respectable clip. He is about a 60% regular season free throw shooter. He gets to 70%-75% and he is cool.

I'm not approving of what he is doing in Philly but it's not a given that he will do that anywhere else. I'd roll the dice on him but I wouldn't give up the franchise for him. Ball, Coby and a 1st and let's roll as soon as yesterday.

Philly would never go for that though. Contrary to what you might think.

I think your tunnel vision approach works better in NBA 2k22 than it works in real life. Ben Simmons' talent isn't on trial. His character is on trial. I'm sure you know of many players who derailed their careers and the trajectories of entire franchises because of character issues. Right now, Ben Simmons is that guy.