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Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:27 pm ]
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I don't like this move at all. He seems like one of these guys that lasts about 4 years in the NBA and then ends up playing in Europe for the rest of his career.
Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:34 pm ]
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Yea, do you think he picked him because Pax just can't look away from college basketball glory (Duke, Kansas players drafted before)?
Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:38 pm ]
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I'm with you Nas. If Noah ever starts on this team I'll be blown away that you and I are wrong or the Bulls just got really bad again :lol:
Author:  sportsfan [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:54 pm ]
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The first thing we learned in organized hoops was how to shoot the ball. He can't.

Hawes has as great as an upside as Noah has a downside.
Author:  mr_gimp [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:00 pm ]
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unless he is traded, this is a horrible ending to the Eddy Curry trade.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:00 pm ]
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Not a big fan of this pick either. Doesn't solve their inside scoring problem. Hopefully Pax will be trading somewhere down the road.

Nice trade for the Knicks
Author:  Hawkeye Vince [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:09 pm ]
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This feels like drafting a Tyson Chandler all over again. He'll be much more valuable on the defensive end than offensive end. He'll hustle and fit the Skiles mode, but will not be much more than a 2nd unit player.

Pax made this pick for two reasons IMHO:
1. Pedigree - National Champ x2
2. Age/Experience - He's 2 years older than Hawes and played 2 full seasons more of games.
Author:  mr_gimp [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:11 pm ]
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don't we already have this in Thomas and Wallace?
Author:  mr_gimp [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:20 pm ]
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Jesus... somebody hold me :cry:
Author:  Juiced [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:22 pm ]
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Dickey Simpkins anyone?
Author:  Hawkeye Vince [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:23 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Hawkeye Vince wrote:
2. Age/Experience - He's 2 years older than Hawes and played 2 full seasons more of games.


He is older and worse. How is that good?


My only comment is that Pax chose him because he had the experience - that he didnt want another guy out of his first year of college (a la Tyrus Thomas)
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:52 pm ]
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Unless Chicago makes a move, which I don't see happening, this pick is terrible. He is a role player that fills a role that we don't need. He had a good NCAA tournament 2 years ago. He was the 4th best player on Florida last year. I don't see how this pick makes the Bulls any better.

With that said, he will work hard and make an impact on many games. He won't make the Bulls any better though.

I can't believe anyone would want Steve Francis though, so at least Paxson didn't pick him up.
Author:  mr_gimp [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:58 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
If they can move Wallace this pick instantly becomes better.


How? Noah can't play the 5, he would get instantly ass raped!
Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:59 pm ]
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haha, you hate Ben.

Nas, I never read your thoughts on Kobe coming here. Why do you like the move? Don't you think it's possible it could ruin the team? I'm warming up to it a bit more if we could keep Deng in the deal. The East wouldn't be able to handle Kobe.
Author:  IkeSouth [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:09 pm ]
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where's doug buffone right now? norm? D.E.F.E.N.S.E. you morons. does anyone remember what happened yesterday? let alone last year's bears draft? devin hester ring a bell? yeah he was a 'project' and eventual bench player too. fuck you guys pax knows what he is doing im going home.
Author:  Mr. Reason [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:15 pm ]
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All that's missing is the red nose.



Image
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:17 pm ]
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Joakim Noah has the fire and the passion(it's too bad he has no offense or weight).

It is a bad sign that it actually seems the knicks are having a better draft than us.
Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:20 pm ]
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nas, you like the Pistons pick? I think they did a nice job with Afflalo.
Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:24 pm ]
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and they say you and i dont get along...pshht
Author:  IkeSouth [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:24 pm ]
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apparently noah has had fans for awhile- http://youtube.com/watch?v=8zAjh9yNtrM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jpimYhl7Ve0

lookin like a promising year- http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hc8GO8-q4iQ
Author:  W_Z [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:34 pm ]
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FACT...

Nas...

...Woodridge Ryan...

Friends.


WTF are my Sixers doing...grr.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:10 pm ]
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W_Z wrote:
FACT...

Nas...

...Woodridge Ryan...

Friends.


WTF are my Sixers doing...grr.


The same strategy they have used for the past 25 years.
Author:  Tall Midget [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:19 pm ]
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Is there anyway Noah was picked for Denver as part of a deal for Camby? That possibility is about the only thing keeping me from slashing my wrists right now.

And Bucket, you'd better not protest that he had a shoulder injury last year because I didn't like his game two years ago, either. Don't make me hurt you....

For the record, here is an incomplete list of players I would rather have on the Bulls than Noah: 1)Durant 2)Oden 3)Yi 4)Brewer 5)Conley 6)Wright 7)Green 8)Hawes 9)Horford 10)Tiago Splitter 11)J. Smith 12)D. Cook 13)Dickey Simpkins 14)Marcus Fizer 15)Mitchell Wiggins 16)Billy Boyce, one of my b-ball teammates from junior high school 17)Sal, my pet rock 18)A mannequin 19)Fritzy, etc
Author:  Tall Midget [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:08 pm ]
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The Noah pick is making me physically ill. I need my binky, a blanky and a stuffed animal.
Author:  Irish Boy [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:31 pm ]
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Keep in mind that I'm basketball retarded, and so none of what I say should be taken completely seriously, but it is possible that Noah was downgraded because so many people were looking for the faults this year, after coming on the scene last year? I know that happens quite a bit in football, often irrationally.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:40 pm ]
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Irish Boy wrote:
Keep in mind that I'm basketball retarded, and so none of what I say should be taken completely seriously, but it is possible that Noah was downgraded because so many people were looking for the faults this year, after coming on the scene last year? I know that happens quite a bit in football, often irrationally.


Irish Boy,
He was considered a good college player before March Madness 2 years ago. He had a great tournament and deserved the accolades. He regressed somewhat this year, and it became clear that he did have major flaws in his game offensively. He ended up being at best, the 3rd best player on Florida, and probably the 4th best.

He's going to be a good player in the league for a while. The problem is that his ceiling is very low for a top 10 draft pick.
Author:  chitownpizza [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:06 am ]
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I'm with you guys I don't understand this pick. But I think that Paxson knows a little bit more about basketball talent than anyone of us. So I trust in his judgment. He's done alright so far, hasn't he? I just don't like the players showboating. Pax has to have other moves he's going to do. Everyone is so quick to react. One thing I didn't understand is why he picked the SG with the third pick who has been in trouble with the law. Thought he didn't want "those" kind of players. Rather have seen Green from Fla. picked
Author:  Tall Midget [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:22 am ]
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Nas wrote:
Bucket?


Bucket's out snorting lines of coke off of the bellies of intoxicated hookers with Pax and Skiles. JamesOn Curry's impact on the team has been immediate.
Author:  Beardown [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:24 am ]
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I've heard people say Noah is the same as Chandler on offense. I don't think so. Chandler sucks offensivly. Noah will never average more then 12 points. But I think he has better hands. And I think he can learn a low post move. I thought he showed better on the block in college then Chandler has ever shown (I know its college and NBA is way different).

I mean, Chandler can only score on lobs and garbage put backs. I think Noah can be a little better then that.

Noah seems more coordinated then Chandler.
Author:  Spinnin' Bucket [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:30 am ]
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Quote:
Bucket?


smoke break

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Bucket how could you possibly like the pick of Noah? With Wallace there what can he possibly do that will make them better?


At the risk of being burned again, I believe Pax will make another move this offseason. After going through the scouting process, he must not have believed that he could find his low post scorer in the draft. Noah & Hawes worked out against each other, and apparently Joakim won the battle (no confirmed reports on whether or not he was wearing a bow tie). They even brought in Hawes a second time, either to give him a mulligan or just throw off the scent for surrounding teams 7-11. He obviously didn't outplay Noah, or they were simply afraid that a C taken in the lottery that doesn't rebound at the college level, could spell B-U-S-T.

With the way Pax has been talking, sounds like he wants to move Noce & Duhon + future picks, cash, etc for a veteran big. IF he can make that happen (the Randolph trade bodes well for us in setting the market; thought the Allen trade was even-steven), then you could be looking at a rotation of:

PG - Kirk
SG - Gordon
SF - Luol
PF - trade (see above)
C - Wallace

G - Thabo
F - Tyrus
FC - Noah
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