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Serious question - What would you do to fix the Bulls? I'm guessing Billy D would be gone, but then what?

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No trades get done because they all end in "you're a DAMN BIGOT!" and hanging up the phone.

:lol:

But then 10 more conversations that also end the same way.

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you recruit Giannis and Lebron to Chicago this off-season by promising both you'll put their relatives on the roster. If Lebron will take league min to win his last 2 titles in the house that Jordan built, use the $$'s saved on Paul George and Pat Bev. See if Russell Westbrook will sign the league's first ever negative salary cap contract to come off the bench.

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Serious question - What would you do to fix the Bulls? I'm guessing Billy D would be gone, but then what?

At this point you essentially have to blow it up. They can't tweak the roster at this point in order to get better. That ship.has sailed

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Serious question - What would you do to fix the Bulls? I'm guessing Billy D would be gone, but then what?

At this point you essentially have to blow it up. They can't tweak the roster at this point in order to get better. That ship.has sailed

There was a 3 year window that had iron bars on it.


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Serious question - What would you do to fix the Bulls? I'm guessing Billy D would be gone, but then what?

At this point you essentially have to blow it up. They can't tweak the roster at this point in order to get better. That ship.has sailed

I don’t disagree but how do you go about it? Trade all the vets and take what you can get? Trade Coby? Do you hang on to all the young guys and play them in a tank and tryout type season? Do you clean house in management? If you fire Billy D, who do you replace him with? Do you target any specific free agents?

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Serious question - What would you do to fix the Bulls? I'm guessing Billy D would be gone, but then what?

At this point you essentially have to blow it up. They can't tweak the roster at this point in order to get better. That ship.has sailed

I don’t disagree but how do you go about it? Trade all the vets and take what you can get? Trade Coby? Do you hang on to all the young guys and play them in a tank and tryout type season? Do you clean house in management? If you fire Billy D, who do you replace him with? Do you target any specific free agents?


I would definitely replace Billy D. Kenny Atkinson is out there. I'd rather have him for starters.

I'd also rather have Darvin Ham too.
In terms of the players, I'd get rid of Derozan first. You aren't going anywhere with him as your best player. Lavine either but I don't know if anyone will trade for him given his salary.
You keep Coby White but you can't build around him. I still think he's best suited as a 6th man.
Keep.Ayo but Trade Vooch. Aging big who won't be around when you get good. Might be able to move Ball as an expiring contract. Probably move my guy the Paw too.. Especially if you keep Billy D. No way you can ever win anything with his collegiate brand of ball as the emphasis of anything.

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Keep White and Ayo. Other than that trade anyone else you can.

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Draft Zach Edey.

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Draft Zach Edey.

:lol:

I have seen a couple articles floating around about the Bulls taking him in the first.

Craziness.

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I think it would be better if he went to a good organization.

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True. maybe a good organization can help him make his travel plans to Europe easier.

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I think it would be better if he went to a good organization.
Gaslighting Brick at it again! What exactly is it that he actually does around here? What makes a "good" organization a good organization? Just asking a question.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Serious question - What would you do to fix the Bulls? I'm guessing Billy D would be gone, but then what?


They are really stuck. They want to resign DeMar (he wants 3 years, but Vuc has 2 years left on his deal) and will try to trade LaVine, but will receive either another team's problems back. Do they resign Patrick Williams? Maybe, but they may let the market play out there.

They have the 11th pick (pending the lottery results) and Lonzo Ball is probably under contract for his final season, but is not going to be a contributor.

They could move Caruso for a 1st round pick, maybe another pick, but I think he's also going to be extended (if they don't trade him).

They could shuffle the coaching staff, including firing Billy D, but he just got an extension last off-season. I don't think he'll be fired.

It's more than likely going to be the same team, minus LaVine, with a rookie and a few spare parts added from that trade. Maybe the bench is a little better if they get a few role players, but this team is not going from 38 to 48 wins. It's likely to stay where it's at, maybe even regress as Demar/Vuc age.

I think they should let DeMar walk (or sign/trade), move Caruso for draft picks, move Zach for the best possible deal that brings back salary relief....let Coby/Ayo lead the team to 30 wins next season.


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When the Dallas Mavericks take the floor tomorrow.,something very glaring should immediately jump right out at ya. Derrick Jones will be the starting 3 for them. A year earlier he was the small ball 5 for small ball college coach Billy D.

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Billy D and his devotion to small ball is killing the team. The Bulls really haven't been blown out all season. They are losing a lot of games down the stretch simply because they can't get stops and rebounds. These are winnable games. Caruso at the 4 and Jones at the 5 needs to stop. It's not a winning formula

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Had to edit that last comment. Truth be told I don't know what I. The hell they are going to do. What I would do is trade "The Big Three" and try and maximize my return. Bulls have a top 10 protected pick next year and I don't believe that want to lose it, but if they want to put out a competitive product, then they are to have too.

They can get something decent for their big 3, but the question is do they want too?

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Had to edit that last comment. Truth be told I don't know what I. The hell they are going to do. What I would do is trade "The Big Three" and try and maximize my return. Bulls have a top 10 protected pick next year and I don't believe that want to lose it, but if they want to put out a competitive product, then they are to have too.

They can get something decent for their big 3, but the question is do they want too?

The "experts" claim the 2025 draft will be great and at least 10 deep. It would be very Bulls-like for them to squeak into the play-offs and forfeit their pick. That said, I think (hope) they are all in on the tank and will trade at least 2 of the big 3 in order to keep their pick.

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Had to edit that last comment. Truth be told I don't know what I. The hell they are going to do. What I would do is trade "The Big Three" and try and maximize my return. Bulls have a top 10 protected pick next year and I don't believe that want to lose it, but if they want to put out a competitive product, then they are to have too.

They can get something decent for their big 3, but the question is do they want too?

The "experts" claim the 2025 draft will be great and at least 10 deep. It would be very Bulls-like for them to squeak into the play-offs and forfeit their pick. That said, I think (hope) they are all in on the tank and will trade at least 2 of the big 3 in order to keep their pick.

Jeez, I would certainly hope AK wouldn't make the same mistake twice.


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Had to edit that last comment. Truth be told I don't know what I. The hell they are going to do. What I would do is trade "The Big Three" and try and maximize my return. Bulls have a top 10 protected pick next year and I don't believe that want to lose it, but if they want to put out a competitive product, then they are to have too.

They can get something decent for their big 3, but the question is do they want too?

The "experts" claim the 2025 draft will be great and at least 10 deep. It would be very Bulls-like for them to squeak into the play-offs and forfeit their pick. That said, I think (hope) they are all in on the tank and will trade at least 2 of the big 3 in order to keep their pick.


I've heard "deep draft" seemingly every other season. Most recently last season with the Wemby draft. "Loads of Riches" with a lot of "Can't miss' prospects. Only to get to the draft and see that a lot of the guys were nowhere near as good as advertised. I don't follow it ad much as I used to, but by all accounts Cooper Flagg is the only Can't miss. If that's the case then I'd rather not tank.
If want them to trade the big 3, but not solely for draft picks and expiring contracts. If they cannot draft a can't miss or future All Star type then they shouldn't trade solely for draft positioning

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Had to edit that last comment. Truth be told I don't know what I. The hell they are going to do. What I would do is trade "The Big Three" and try and maximize my return. Bulls have a top 10 protected pick next year and I don't believe that want to lose it, but if they want to put out a competitive product, then they are to have too.

They can get something decent for their big 3, but the question is do they want too?

The "experts" claim the 2025 draft will be great and at least 10 deep. It would be very Bulls-like for them to squeak into the play-offs and forfeit their pick. That said, I think (hope) they are all in on the tank and will trade at least 2 of the big 3 in order to keep their pick.


I've heard "deep draft" seemingly every other season. Most recently last season with the Wemby draft. "Loads of Riches" with a lot of "Can't miss' prospects. Only to get to the draft and see that a lot of the guys were nowhere near as good as advertised. I don't follow it ad much as I used to, but by all accounts Cooper Flagg is the only Can't miss. If that's the case then I'd rather not tank.
If want them to trade the big 3, but not solely for draft picks and expiring contracts. If they cannot draft a can't miss or future All Star type then they shouldn't trade solely for draft positioning

It isn't rocket science though. You trade to get better or you trade to build, foundation first. The odds are better on the crap shoot between foundation building and just moving chess pieces around. What AK has proved is he isn't prime Jerry West or Pat Riley. He couldn't even snag one of the 100 draft picks Presti had. His last shot is foundation building.


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Presti traded five 2nd round picks last night for essentially a 2nd round pick.

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Had to edit that last comment. Truth be told I don't know what I. The hell they are going to do. What I would do is trade "The Big Three" and try and maximize my return. Bulls have a top 10 protected pick next year and I don't believe that want to lose it, but if they want to put out a competitive product, then they are to have too.

They can get something decent for their big 3, but the question is do they want too?

The "experts" claim the 2025 draft will be great and at least 10 deep. It would be very Bulls-like for them to squeak into the play-offs and forfeit their pick. That said, I think (hope) they are all in on the tank and will trade at least 2 of the big 3 in order to keep their pick.


They will probably be bad enough to land a top 10 pick if they let DeMar walk and trade Zach for some form of salary relief/few spare (bad) parts...I would be surprised if Vuc was traded with the 2 years left, given how limited he is defensively.

They should let Giddey, Coby, Ayo, the rookie, Williams (assuming he resigned) and Vuc be their primary core next season. I don't think that team would win more than 28-32 games.


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Presti traded five 2nd round picks last night for essentially a 2nd round pick.


So interesting that the Bulls traded for a guy who was being demoted to the bench, had demanded a trade and who was coming off a down season....and couldn't even land a 2nd round pick from a team with so many picks that they couldn't possibly use.


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Had to edit that last comment. Truth be told I don't know what I. The hell they are going to do. What I would do is trade "The Big Three" and try and maximize my return. Bulls have a top 10 protected pick next year and I don't believe that want to lose it, but if they want to put out a competitive product, then they are to have too.

They can get something decent for their big 3, but the question is do they want too?

The "experts" claim the 2025 draft will be great and at least 10 deep. It would be very Bulls-like for them to squeak into the play-offs and forfeit their pick. That said, I think (hope) they are all in on the tank and will trade at least 2 of the big 3 in order to keep their pick.


I've heard "deep draft" seemingly every other season. Most recently last season with the Wemby draft. "Loads of Riches" with a lot of "Can't miss' prospects. Only to get to the draft and see that a lot of the guys were nowhere near as good as advertised. I don't follow it ad much as I used to, but by all accounts Cooper Flagg is the only Can't miss. If that's the case then I'd rather not tank.
If want them to trade the big 3, but not solely for draft picks and expiring contracts. If they cannot draft a can't miss or future All Star type then they shouldn't trade solely for draft positioning

It isn't rocket science though. You trade to get better or you trade to build, foundation first. The odds are better on the crap shoot between foundation building and just moving chess pieces around. What AK has proved is he isn't prime Jerry West or Pat Riley. He couldn't even snag one of the 100 draft picks Presti had. His last shot is foundation building.


Actually in today's NBA building through the draft is the crap shoot. Unless you luck into a#1 overall with a franchise player, or a year with a top 5 class that's strong, then you really aren't getting much out of the draft. And even when you do then the GM that drafted him will already have been launched while waiting for them to develop. As the old Adage goes, the NBA is a men's league. You are not winning with 19 year olds as your best player. Or making any noise either.

And the trading for draft picks and we will be straight game isn't working either because any draft pick that has actual value is likely to be protected anyway.

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Had to edit that last comment. Truth be told I don't know what I. The hell they are going to do. What I would do is trade "The Big Three" and try and maximize my return. Bulls have a top 10 protected pick next year and I don't believe that want to lose it, but if they want to put out a competitive product, then they are to have too.

They can get something decent for their big 3, but the question is do they want too?

The "experts" claim the 2025 draft will be great and at least 10 deep. It would be very Bulls-like for them to squeak into the play-offs and forfeit their pick. That said, I think (hope) they are all in on the tank and will trade at least 2 of the big 3 in order to keep their pick.


I've heard "deep draft" seemingly every other season. Most recently last season with the Wemby draft. "Loads of Riches" with a lot of "Can't miss' prospects. Only to get to the draft and see that a lot of the guys were nowhere near as good as advertised. I don't follow it ad much as I used to, but by all accounts Cooper Flagg is the only Can't miss. If that's the case then I'd rather not tank.
If want them to trade the big 3, but not solely for draft picks and expiring contracts. If they cannot draft a can't miss or future All Star type then they shouldn't trade solely for draft positioning

It isn't rocket science though. You trade to get better or you trade to build, foundation first. The odds are better on the crap shoot between foundation building and just moving chess pieces around. What AK has proved is he isn't prime Jerry West or Pat Riley. He couldn't even snag one of the 100 draft picks Presti had. His last shot is foundation building.


Actually in today's NBA building through the draft is the crap shoot. Unless you luck into a#1 overall with a franchise player, or a year with a top 5 class that's strong, then you really aren't getting much out of the draft. And even when you do then the GM that drafted him will already have been launched while waiting for them to develop. As the old Adage goes, the NBA is a men's league. You are not winning with 19 year olds as your best player. Or making any noise either.

And the trading for draft picks and we will be straight game isn't working either because any draft pick that has actual value is likely to be protected anyway.

We saw his 3 year window moving chess pieces. He can't do it. He can't evaluate the coach either.

So...he's still here. Foundation is his only option.


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