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Author: | RFDC [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Who will be the new GM? |
Thoughts on who will be the new GM? What does this do to the Amare talks? How does this impact Vinny? |
Author: | Johnny Chimpo [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
They were talking about possibly Doug Collins on the Score. |
Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Elgin Baylor is available. |
Author: | Ex-Media Guy [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
RFDC wrote: Thoughts on who will be the new GM? Bryan Colangelo
What does this do to the Amare talks? Nothing How does this impact Vinny? Fired. |
Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:56 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Reinsdorf is calling the report BS. Not sure if that means anything... |
Author: | bigfan [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Jimmy Stack???? |
Author: | Ex-Media Guy [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Funny thing is that he may be resigning at the wrong time. Rose Gordon Deng Stoudemire Noah might be able to wins some games. |
Author: | BD [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Let the Doug Collins talk begin..... |
Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
You have to wonder if Jerry gave him the 'No' to making deals. |
Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
BD wrote: Let the Doug Collins talk begin..... But what about jeopardizing he and Jerry's friendship? |
Author: | Ex-Media Guy [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:40 am ] |
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Hawkeye Vince wrote: You have to wonder if Jerry gave him the 'No' to making deals. You might be on to something Hawkeye. I don't see Pax as a quitter, but maybe he did this because he has no power/control. |
Author: | hackwilson's ribbies [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Ex-Media Guy wrote: Hawkeye Vince wrote: You have to wonder if Jerry gave him the 'No' to making deals. You might be on to something Hawkeye. I don't see Pax as a quitter, but maybe he did this because he has no power/control. Dammit, thunder has been stolen - you gotta wonder how much crap behind the scenes makes Pax look bad... |
Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Jerry is typically very risk averse. Look at Amare - sure he's the best bet to take the Bulls to the next level but a) he's had microfracture surgery which can lead to ruin down the road and b) if he doesn't opt out, he's worth a fair amount of coin and limits the Bulls flexibility in the 2010 race. |
Author: | Brick [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Great call Hawkeye Vince. It makes perfect sense. Paxson is tired of being the whipping boy when deals don't get done. He's not going to sit there after being denied again. Good for Paxson if that is true. |
Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
So this pretty much confirms that nothing will happen before the trade deadline. Fantastic... |
Author: | Ex-Media Guy [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:58 am ] |
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Steve Rosenbloom wrote: Bulls GM to quit? Doesn't sound like the Paxson I know
It’s Friday, and I have all the answers . . . This doesn’t sound like John Paxson, the person, and the writer in the New York Post says he doesn’t know this for a fact, but the short story cites two sources that claim Paxson will resign as Bulls director of basketball operations after Thursday’s trade deadline. Director of player personnel Gar Forman supposedly would take over. The story, which was confirmed by another Chicago news outlet, rambles on about more Doug Collins talk after the season. Disillusioned or not about how badly things have turned with his core group of players -- the way they have turned into typical NBA players -- this just doesn’t sound a bit like Paxson. At least, not Paxson the person I know, Not in the middle of the season, even after the trade deadline. Or maybe especially not after the trade deadline because it would create horrible suspicions about Paxson and his intentions and how much he really had the franchise’s best interest as his interest. I can see Paxson’s telling Chairman Reinsdorf he isn’t able to do the job. But not when it might cause major harm to the franchise he has always loved and treated him well, and believe me, Paxson’s pulling a disappearing act the day after the trade deadline would prompt ugly accusations. Say Paxson trades for Amare Stoudemire, then quits. You’d have to wonder why, and then you’d wonder if he did enough background checking on Stoudemire or did he just stick his suddenly former employer with an overrated player? Or say Paxson doesn’t make a deal, and then quits. Hoo boy, would that prompt screaming. He didn’t try to make the team better, who knows which players he let go to other teams, and jeez, Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden would still be here. I’ve called for Paxson to be fired. Same goes for Vinny Del Negro. I don’t feel I’ve seen enough to change my mind, but the Chairman isn’t listening, so it doesn’t matter. But it’s a different deal when a guy gets fired compared to when he up and quits. A guy gets fired, he’s failed. Period. That’s the verdict from the boss. But when a guy quits --- and if he quits right after a franchise-changing day --- omigawd, every possible agenda and motive, evil and otherwise, are in play. If Paxson indeed intends to quit, he needs to be removed today. Right now. Immediately. Better for the Bulls t make no player moves than to allow a short-timer to add to his list of bad player moves. |
Author: | Ex-Media Guy [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Looks to be a bunch of crap - Reinsdorf said today that Peter Vescey has no credibility and ridiculed his report that Paxson has submitted his resignation (and his January report that he was firing him). |
Author: | SHARK [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Nobody is saying for sure about the Bulls' General Manager position...The Sun-Times & "SCORE's" own Brian Hanley called into his own morning show today to confirm this story, but Uncle Jerry & the Bulls haven't said anything about whether John Paxson has indeed resigned or not calling it quits...ESPN Radio's Dan "the Duke" Davis said at the top of this hour it will happen after the February 19th NBA Trade Deadline...In plain English, all bets are off right now. |
Author: | RFDC [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Thanks for that update Shark. |
Author: | spanky [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Quite naturally, I think we know who should be the next GM of the Bulls. |
Author: | Brick [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
SHARK wrote: In plain English, all bets are off right now. Was the rest of your post in some other type of English? |
Author: | SHARK [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: SHARK wrote: In plain English, all bets are off right now. Was the rest of your post in some other type of English? Nobody's saying for sure, Rick...Two sources said Pax was resigning, but Uncle Jerry's denied it & fired a shot at Peter Vecsey to boot. |
Author: | Tall Midget [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:36 pm ] |
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SHARK wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: SHARK wrote: In plain English, all bets are off right now. Was the rest of your post in some other type of English? Nobody's saying for sure, Rick...Two sources said Pax was resigning, but Uncle Jerry's denied it & fired a shot at Peter Vecsey to boot. Did Reinsdorf actually deny the story? I thought he simply said that Vescey doesn't have the credibility to justify a response from him. That is a way of attacking the reporter without denying the report. |
Author: | SHARK [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:39 pm ] |
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Uncle Jerry did question Vecsey's accuracy & sources on this story... |
Author: | Ex-Media Guy [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:48 pm ] |
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Tall Midget wrote: Did Reinsdorf actually deny the story? I thought he simply said that Vescey doesn't have the credibility to justify a response from him. That is a way of attacking the reporter without denying the report. You nailed it, TM. He didn't actually deny it. Jerry Reinsdorf wrote: "Pete Vecsey is not a credible enough source to comment on. Two weeks ago he had John being fired. Now he has him resigning."
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Author: | SHARK [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
He didn't deny it, but he ripped Peter's lack of credibility, but I thought I also heard Uncle Jerry completely deny the John Paxson resignation story...What the hell it is? |
Author: | Ex-Media Guy [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
SHARK wrote: He didn't deny it, but he ripped Peter's lack of credibility Thanks for clarifying that, SHARK. Do you have his actual statement? |
Author: | MattInTheCrown [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Tall Midget wrote: Did Reinsdorf actually deny the story? I thought he simply said that Vescey doesn't have the credibility to justify a response from him. That is a way of attacking the reporter without denying the report. An ad hominem red herring combo! |
Author: | SHARK [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
Ex-Media Guy wrote: SHARK wrote: He didn't deny it, but he ripped Peter's lack of credibility Thanks for clarifying that, SHARK. Do you have his actual statement? What statement? Can't give you what I don't have... |
Author: | Ex-Media Guy [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Who will be the new GM? |
I'm just busting your balls, man. I posted the direct quote (above) as soon as it came across the wire. |
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