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Author: | Glendale Heights Brian [ Sun May 02, 2010 11:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | 2010 Free Agent List |
Let's start by breaking up the class into a few categories. First up, let's start with the big-name players whose contract's will expire following the 2009-2010 season, and will then become honest-to-goodness unrestricted free agents on July 1, 2010: Joe Johnson : Carlos Boozer David Lee : Ray Allen : Manu Ginobili -Signed Marcus Camby Raymond Felton Tracy McGrady Shaquille O'Neal The next grouping is the list of stars that are signed thru 2011, but can opt out in 2010 if they so choose: LeBron James (Player Option - owed 17.2 million in 10/11) Dwyane Wade (PO - owed 17.0 million in 10/11) Chris Bosh (PO - owed 17.1 million in 10/11) Amar'e Stoudemire (Early Termination Option - owed 17.7 million in 10/11) Dirk Nowitzki (ETO - owed $21.5 million in 10/11) Paul Pierce (PO – owed $21.5 million in 10/11) Kobe Bryant (PO – owed $24.8 million in 10/11) Signed Ex In March/ Yao Ming (ETO - owed 17.7 million in 10/11) Mike Redd (ETO - owed $18.3 million in 10/11) (Obviously we know Redd won't opt out, and it's safe to assume the same for Yao Ming as well) Next up, we have a few members of the 2006 draft class that will become restricted free-agents this summer, as they have played out the first four years of their rookie contracts and haven't signed early extensions: Rudy Gay Tyrus Thomas J.J. Redick Randy Foye Kyle Lowry Ronnie Brewer In addition to the studs listed above, the following 'second-tier' players, young and old, are set to hit the open market as well: Josh Howard (Team Option - owed $11.8 million in 10/11) Brad Miller Allen Iverson Jermaine O'Neal KDdidit Martin (ETO - owed $16.5 million in 10/11) Mike Miller Nate Robinson Brendan Haywood Zydrunas Ilgauskas Al Harrington Udonis Haslem Kyle Korver Drew Gooden Raja Bell Luis Scola (restricted) Sergio Rodriguez (unrestricted if Knicks don't offer QO) John Salmons (ETO – owed $5.8 million in 10/11) Tyson Chandler (ETO - owed $12.8 million in 10/11) T.J. Ford (PO - owed $8.5 million in 10/11) Travis Outlaw Earl Watson Larry Hughes Luke Ridnour Louis Amundson Channing Frye (PO - owed $2.1 million in 10/11) Grant Hill (PO - owed $3.3 million in 10/11) Steve Blake Quentin Richardson Ben Wallace Tony Allen Marquis Daniels Amir Johnson Leon Powe (team option) Anthony Morrow (restricted) C.J. Watson (restricted) Kelenna Azubuike (PO – owed $3.3 million in 10/11) Jordan Farmer (restricted) Shannon Brown (PO – owed $2.2 million in 10/11) Dorell Wright Joe Alexander Hakim Warrick Hilton Armstrong (restricted) Chris Duhon Rounding out the registry, there are a number of veteran role-players that will also be testing free agent waters: Derek Fisher Matt Harpring Josh Childress (restricted) Darko Milicic Antoine Wright Marcus Williams Joe Smith Jawad Williams Mo Evans (PO) Shelden Williams Stephen Graham Damien Wilkins Luther Head Rasual Butler Kurt Thomas Rafer Alston Bobby Simmons Matt Bonner Tony Battie Trenton Hassell Sean Williams Jarvis Hayes Rodney Carney Desmond Mason Sean May Etan Thomas Kenny Thomas Tim Thomas Brian Cardinal |
Author: | Bagels [ Mon May 03, 2010 7:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
there is no way shannon brown takes the player option with how coveted he will be |
Author: | RFDC [ Mon May 03, 2010 7:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Haslem is available. Pencil him in the starting lineup and move Noah to the bench, all the Bulls problems solved. |
Author: | Bagels [ Mon May 03, 2010 7:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
in all seriousness, in addition to it being the greatest FA class of all time due to the obvious, it's also pretty deep. however that in of itself is also a paradox, because despite how deep it is, it's depth shouldn't necessarily command big money but we all know that somehow it will. for example Rudy Gay would be a very nice piece to have at a modest price but some idiot GM will way overpay him because they got shutout on Bosh and Wade. aside from the very obvious, these are the lesser free agents I would have interest in: Gay: still think he is ready to breakout, i would not give him serious money...should be an interesting contract. will someone give him serious cash? i can't see him taking a MLE at this point in his career. i still think if some team can get him for a modest price (meaning not a max deal) i think he is good value Foye: I think this is kind of a sleeper too, that you could get decent value. he's not going to command a high salary, i think if you could convince him to be a jamal crawford type- a 6th man for a good team, he could be very good. he hasn't proved successful being on poor teams being "the man", but he can still score and finish at the rim, good FT shooter...I think he could be a nice piece on a winning team. obviously w/ him and Gay and other "semi-stars" i guess it depends on how he views himself- are these type of players still thinking they can be the top player on a team or are they willing to accept who they are? Josh Howard- again, depending on the salary I think this could be a steal. he can't be commanding high dollars at this point and it would be a risk, but if he plays up to potential...i think this is somewhat high risk/high reward but I would sign him to a MLE without hesitation...we'll see what he commands i think it's gonna be real interesting to see how these non top-tier free agents shake out....are they going to get less money b/c the FA class is deep and teams run out of cash...or are the teams that get shut out of James, Bosh, Wade, etc. going to have holes burning in their pockets causing them to overpay for middle tier players...should be interesting |
Author: | W_Z [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
isn't JamesOn Curry a free agent? |
Author: | Douchebag [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
W_Z wrote: isn't JamesOn Curry a free agent? There is no chance that guy will want to leave the NBDL. |
Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Plenty of towels in the NBA. |
Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
I would love if the Bulls added a player like Reddick/Korver in addition to an obvious max FA guy. |
Author: | Apologist [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Despite his reputation, I don't think Reddick is a very good shooter. |
Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
I'd take Korver. A 6'11" guy can hit an open long range shot consistently. Da Boo haven't had anyone who fit that description currently. |
Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:35 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I'd take Korver. A 6'11" guy can hit an open long range shot consistently. Da Boo haven't had anyone who fit that description currently. If you replace hit with take, that described Brad Miller perfectly. |
Author: | Glendale Heights Brian [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I'd take Korver. A 6'11" guy can hit an open long range shot consistently. Da Boo haven't had anyone who fit that description currently. Korver is 6'7 not 6'11 |
Author: | Glendale Heights Brian [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Worst-Case Scenario---I keep having thoughts of what happened 10 years ago with Krause/Benny the Bull at the Airport--and we get Mercer/Miller----- If we fail to land any of the BIG fish--how about Luis Scola--he is restricted but offer him a MAX deal--Then Foye/Mike Miller then maybe id kick the tires on Jermaine O'Neal or David Lee-- |
Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Glendale Heights Brian wrote: Worst-Case Scenario---I keep having thoughts of what happened 10 years ago with Krause/Benny the Bull at the Airport--and we get Mercer/Miller----- If we fail to land any of the BIG fish--how about Luis Scola--he is restricted but offer him a MAX deal--Then Foye/Mike Miller then maybe id kick the tires on Jermaine O'Neal or David Lee-- I really hope you didnt just suggest offering Luis Scola a MAX deal. Also the way you worded it you made it sound like J Oneal and Lee are interchangable. Nothing could be father from the truth. |
Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Glendale Heights Brian wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I'd take Korver. A 6'11" guy can hit an open long range shot consistently. Da Boo haven't had anyone who fit that description currently. Korver is 6'7 not 6'11 My mistake. |
Author: | Brick [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Glendale Heights Brian wrote: Brian Cardinal How did Brian Cardinal make this list?
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Author: | Glendale Heights Brian [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
FavreFan wrote: Glendale Heights Brian wrote: Worst-Case Scenario---I keep having thoughts of what happened 10 years ago with Krause/Benny the Bull at the Airport--and we get Mercer/Miller----- If we fail to land any of the BIG fish--how about Luis Scola--he is restricted but offer him a MAX deal--Then Foye/Mike Miller then maybe id kick the tires on Jermaine O'Neal or David Lee-- I really hope you didnt just suggest offering Luis Scola a MAX deal. Also the way you worded it you made it sound like J Oneal and Lee are interchangable. Nothing could be father from the truth. Why wouldnt i offer Scola a MAX deal---because then the Rockets would have to make a tough descison and the Guy can PLAY--if you get Nothing out of the Free Agent class your Fucked as for J Oneal and Lee-we need a BIG bad to play with Noah. |
Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Glendale Heights Brian wrote: FavreFan wrote: Glendale Heights Brian wrote: Worst-Case Scenario---I keep having thoughts of what happened 10 years ago with Krause/Benny the Bull at the Airport--and we get Mercer/Miller----- If we fail to land any of the BIG fish--how about Luis Scola--he is restricted but offer him a MAX deal--Then Foye/Mike Miller then maybe id kick the tires on Jermaine O'Neal or David Lee-- I really hope you didnt just suggest offering Luis Scola a MAX deal. Also the way you worded it you made it sound like J Oneal and Lee are interchangable. Nothing could be father from the truth. Why wouldnt i offer Scola a MAX deal---because then the Rockets would have to make a tough descison and the Guy can PLAY--if you get Nothing out of the Free Agent class your Fucked as for J Oneal and Lee-we need a BIG bad to play with Noah. Scola is worth nowhere near MAX money. I'm not sure why you think he's worth 40% of the team's salary, but he just isnt. That's absurd. He's a nice $8 million/year player. I understand we need a big to play with Noah but really given our position and cap room, the worst we should walk away with is a player like Lee, who is much better than Oneal and better than Scola. Oneal will struggle to find a roster spot anywhere is my guess. He's pretty bad. |
Author: | Douchebag [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Glendale Heights Brian wrote: Worst-Case Scenario---I keep having thoughts of what happened 10 years ago with Krause/Benny the Bull at the Airport--and we get Mercer/Miller----- If we fail to land any of the BIG fish--how about Luis Scola--he is restricted but offer him a MAX deal--Then Foye/Mike Miller then maybe id kick the tires on Jermaine O'Neal or David Lee-- This team is NOTHING like the Bulls squad from 10 years ago. Guys didn't come here back then because all the Bulls had to offer as a supporting cast was Kevin Ollie, Kornel David, and other garbage. This team is completely different. The team that will be the 2000 Bulls of this offseason is the New York Knicks. Yes, they have money to offer, but that team is garbage with zero supporting cast. |
Author: | Glendale Heights Brian [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
the worst we should walk away with is a player like Lee, who is much better than Oneal and better than Scola. Oneal will struggle to find a roster spot anywhere is my guess. He's pretty bad----------The problem with Lee he shoots Jump shots--we need someone down low---Scola---im tired of seeing Jump Shots--Plus memphis is hot after Lee--As for J Oneal it was a thought a bad one but i have this feeling--But if we can LeBron to visit us then all bets are off,,Go LeBron then Bosh---No Wade. |
Author: | Glendale Heights Brian [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Douchebag wrote: Glendale Heights Brian wrote: Worst-Case Scenario---I keep having thoughts of what happened 10 years ago with Krause/Benny the Bull at the Airport--and we get Mercer/Miller----- If we fail to land any of the BIG fish--how about Luis Scola--he is restricted but offer him a MAX deal--Then Foye/Mike Miller then maybe id kick the tires on Jermaine O'Neal or David Lee-- This team is NOTHING like the Bulls squad from 10 years ago. Guys didn't come here back then because all the Bulls had to offer as a supporting cast was Kevin Ollie, Kornel David, and other garbage. This team is completely different. Who wouldnt want to play with A.J. Guyton???? |
Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Glendale Heights Brian wrote: But if we can LeBron to visit us then all bets are off,,Go LeBron then Bosh---No Wade. This isnt a comment just directed at you but I cant believe how many people are saying No Wade. I can understand wanting LeBron, but who the hell do we have to just say No to the 2nd best player in the league? I guarantee if we do get him everybody will be backtracking a year from now when we have 55-60 wins. |
Author: | Glendale Heights Brian [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
No Wade.---Heres why--he needs the Ball to much---he's 6'3 with more bumps and bruises then Rihanna after a date with Chris Brown--and he loves South Florida, No state tax's,plus he's not a fan of cold weather. |
Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Glendale Heights Brian wrote: No Wade.---Heres why--he needs the Ball to much---he's 6'3 with more bumps and bruises then Rihanna after a date with Chris Brown--and he loves South Florida, No state tax's,plus he's not a fan of cold weather. He grew up here and went to Marquette. I have a hard time believing he cant handle cold weather. Those are always the go to complaints with Chicago, if it was good enough for MJ it's good enough for anyone else though. I'm not sure what his height and wear and tear have to do with anything. He's proven he's capable of guarding any guard in the league and he certainly has no long term injury to deal with right now. |
Author: | Bagels [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
what the hell is this shit w/ cold weather? unless i missed something basketball is played indoors |
Author: | Apologist [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Lee scares me in that he puts up a lot of numbers on a horrific team. He gives a good effort and no doubt would be a fan favorite, but should he be a near max guy? Noah might cover up a lot of his deficiencies but I'm not sold on him. |
Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Bagels wrote: what the hell is this shit w/ cold weather? unless i missed something basketball is played indoors Yeah. Gay basketball... |
Author: | RFDC [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
Come on Bagels, haven't you heard of Bull weather? |
Author: | Brick [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
So we've got an epic battle here between "Wade bought a place in Chicago" vs. "Wade hates Chicago weather". |
Author: | HOVA [ Mon May 03, 2010 12:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2010 Free Agent List |
FavreFan wrote: Glendale Heights Brian wrote: But if we can LeBron to visit us then all bets are off,,Go LeBron then Bosh---No Wade. This isnt a comment just directed at you but I cant believe how many people are saying No Wade. I can understand wanting LeBron, but who the hell do we have to just say No to the 2nd best player in the league? I guarantee if we do get him everybody will be backtracking a year from now when we have 55-60 wins. Wade is due to break down in at least 2 seasons. IMO he and Rose are very similar players. Since neither can consistently knock down a 3pt shot spacing would be a major problem. Rose's ceiling is D Wade IMO. With Kobe healthy and Durant making a lot of noise Wade isn't the 2nd best player in the league. He actually took a step back this year even though it was a contract year. |
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