Vinny didn't develop anyone. Paxson had to threaten the guy just to get him to play the #1 pick in the 4th quarter. The assistant coaches are responsible for their development. If you noticed none of the players really came out and supported Vinny. That tells you what they think about him. Pete Myers told someone that I know that Vinny is clueless on the sidelines and that some of the plays he draws up are so horrible that assistants have to jump in.

Vinny didn't develop anyone. Paxson had to threaten the guy just to get him to play the #1 pick in the 4th quarter. The assistant coaches are responsible for their development. If you noticed none of the players really came out and supported Vinny. That tells you what they think about him. Pete Myers told someone that I know that Vinny is clueless on the sidelines and that some of the plays he draws up are so horrible that assistants have to jump in.

Was Vinny a bad coach? Yes.

Was he as bad as I expected him to be? No.

Vinny didn't develop anyone. Paxson had to threaten the guy just to get him to play the #1 pick in the 4th quarter. The assistant coaches are responsible for their development. If you noticed none of the players really came out and supported Vinny. That tells you what they think about him. Pete Myers told someone that I know that Vinny is clueless on the sidelines and that some of the plays he draws up are so horrible that assistants have to jump in.

Vinny didn't develop anyone. Paxson had to threaten the guy just to get him to play the #1 pick in the 4th quarter. The assistant coaches are responsible for their development. If you noticed none of the players really came out and supported Vinny. That tells you what they think about him. Pete Myers told someone that I know that Vinny is clueless on the sidelines and that some of the plays he draws up are so horrible that assistants have to jump in.

Vinny didn't develop anyone. Paxson had to threaten the guy just to get him to play the #1 pick in the 4th quarter. The assistant coaches are responsible for their development. If you noticed none of the players really came out and supported Vinny. That tells you what they think about him. Pete Myers told someone that I know that Vinny is clueless on the sidelines and that some of the plays he draws up are so horrible that assistants have to jump in.

Ok they were 82-82 and 4-8 in the playoffs right?
Really that's not bad. It's not Vinny's fault that he had players that sucked outside of a couple bad contract guys.
And I think that Noah is an example that he can develop players. Rose is certainly coming along too. They were way overmatched in the playoffs this year before Vinny's coaching got anywhere near the floor. I don't deny that he made a couple bad coaching decisions, bad time out management and so on but after all he was pretty green, right?
Do you think the Bulls would really have done better with Collins?

I think Pete Myers is one of those guys that is a really good assistant but would probably be a bad coach. I think he is smart enough to know this. He will have a job with the Bulls as long as he wants one.

I wouldn't hire him to coach a grade school basketball team. He makes Skiles look like Phil Jackson or Red Auerbach

What evidence is there that Pete Myers is a really good assistant coach?

Actually, didn't Noah/Rose both say they would support Vinny coming back? Sure, we can judge the level of enthusiam, and all that, but the comments were made.

Isn't Derrick Rose responsible for his own development? When you have as much talent as he does, it's going to get through eventually. I do recall to start the season, Rose wasn't playing beyond average, and Del Negro was being criticized for Rose's lack of development when it really came down to Rose recoving slowly from his ankle injury.

Taj Gibson was a nice late round pick who seemed to get better as the year went on. Before the season started, nobody expeted him to be a key contributor.

Obviously, Noah has gotten much better, but again, I think he's got a lot of talent to begin with. He just needed to dedicate himself to the weight room, and put in the time.

Look at this roster - almost half of it is bad. Who were you looking for him to develop?

As for other guys, like Deng or Hinrich, do you really think any coach is going to make these these guys any better than what they are? 4th or 5th options?

What evidence is there that Pete Myers is a really good assistant coach?

What were the specific problems that you had with Del Negro as a coach? Obviously, the usage of timeouts stood out in the playoffs last season....Not playing Derrick Rose late in games was also irritating....What about his game plans?

I have my issues with him too, and I'm upset he's being fired, but he was dealt a bad hand here. Management gave him half a roster, and that half that mattered resulted in Luol Deng being the team's 2nd best scorer.

Re: Was Vinny actually a bad coach?


was 9/11 really that bad? is the oil spill really going to effect anything? can you really grow mushrooms on manure? does larry horse actually eat people alive? will spmack ever really come out of the closet? will the end of time actually mean vinny can't ever coach again?

How's thing's going with the Nigerian chick? How many more payments until she's yours?