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Author: | HOVA [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Reaction from Cleveland |
Late Thursday night, Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert issued the following statement on LeBron James' departure from the franchise. Dear Cleveland, all of Northeast Ohio and Cleveland Cavaliers supporters wherever you may be tonight; As you now know, our former hero, who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier. This was announced with a several-day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his "decision" unlike anything ever "witnessed" in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment. Clearly, this is bitterly disappointing to all of us. The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you. There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you. You simply don't deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal. You have given so much and deserve so much more. In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight: "I personally guarantee that the Cleveland Cavaliers will win an NBA Championship before the self-titled former 'king' wins one." You can take it to the bank. If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Cleveland, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels. Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there. Sorry, but that's simply not how it works. This shocking act of disloyalty from our homegrown "chosen one" sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And "who" we would want them to grow up to become. But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called "curse" on Cleveland, Ohio. The self-declared former "King" will be taking the "curse" with him down south. And until he does "right" by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma. Just watch. Sleep well, Cleveland. Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day... I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only: DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue... Dan Gilbert Majority Owner Cleveland Cavaliers |
Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dan Gilbert |
Are those his actual words? Wow. He's fanning the flames of Lebron-hate. I like it. Somebody sell this guy the Bulls, stat! |
Author: | reents [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dan Gilbert |
HOVA wrote: There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you. This could be intresting. |
Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dan Gilbert |
HOVA wrote: former hero,
who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier. narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his "decision" unlike anything ever "witnessed" bitterly disappointing to all of us. the "hard-working, loyal, and driven" staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you. cowardly betrayal. this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels. shocking act of disloyalty from our homegrown "chosen one" sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And "who" we would want them to grow up to become. " heartless and callous action" can only serve as the antidote to the so-called "curse" on Cleveland, Ohio. self-declared former "King" will be taking the "curse" with him down south. And until he does "right" by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma. Just watch. Sleep well, Cleveland. Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day... I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only: DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue... Dan Gilbert |
Author: | HOVA [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dan Gilbert |
reents wrote: HOVA wrote: There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you. This could be intresting. I agree. I'm guessing LeBron and Maverick didn't think about this before have a prime time special on national television. |
Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dan Gilbert |
Note to self, never cross: (1) Eric Cartman or (2) Dan Gilbert or (3) anyone with a loaded gun. |
Author: | RFDC [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dan Gilbert |
Wrong section. And WTF Nasova, I know you read the new posts here??? This has already been posted 2 times!!?!?! |
Author: | HOVA [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dan Gilbert |
RFDC wrote: Wrong section. And WTF Nasova, I know you read the new posts here??? This has already been posted 2 times!!?!?! Where? Never saw it. |
Author: | HOVA [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Chosen One left the money and ran. Until 9:28 Thursday night, there was still the thought in Cleveland that reports LeBron James would go to Miami as a free agent were a vast smoke screen, like the volcano in Iceland. But they were not. 117 3 519Share Defecting players usually say sports are a business. But while James' decision certainly crushes businesses around The Q, for Cleveland, this was personal. How could it possibly be business when the Cavaliers could pay $30 million more over a long-term contract than any of his suitors? James is the local legend who severed his ties with the area and now becomes as reviled as any sports figure other than Art Modell. He is the great player who left unfinished business after quitting on his team on the court and left unanswered questions by quitting on his city off it. The medium for the bad news was ESPN, which figured. The network represents much of what is loud, obnoxious and empty in sports today. The smiley face that Miami will put on this will be that James placed a chance to solidify one of the NBA's potentially great teams ahead of his ego. But as the dog-and-pony show of James' free agency shows, it was always all about him. There is no doubt, however, that Cleveland enabled him with the huge billboard-sized banner across from The Q; with the "Witness" signs, as if he were able to perform miracles; with the sing-along by city and state officials, pleading for him to stay. There was a clear indication from the moment he wore a Yankees cap to a New York-Indians playoff game in what was then called Jacobs Field that he felt he could do anything he pleased. No one in the Cavaliers' organization would ever tell him no. What a surprise that he became monstrously self-centered. In the end, he proved not good enough to win it all, even with a good supporting cast. By waiting to leave until after his high-profile basketball camp in his hometown of Akron, by surrounding himself there with current and former Cavs teammates, and by scheduling a one-hour national cable "event" just to exploit this city's suffering, he hit the trifecta in deplorable behavior. He had before invoked all the connotations of home, only to leave it. He had before summoned an image of family, only to reject it. He had before cherished loyalty, only to betray it. He wears "Family" and "Loyalty" tattoos on his torso. Dermabrasion, please. The sooner, the better. By contrast, Tim Duncan could have left the Spurs for Orlando, almost did, then stayed and won three of his four championships afterward. Kobe Bryant almost forced his way out of Los Angeles, then stayed and won two championships among his five overall, in just the last two years. With James, there was always a childish, self-aggrandizing aspect to his game and a divided focus on the importance of winning. He was caught up in hosting the ESPYs and "Saturday Night Live" or making a proposed movie. Such perks once followed winning, but in his case, they preceded it. He always wanted everyone to look at him. He valued trick shots, attempting looping, underhanded efforts from halfcourt before the game. He indulged in showy, copycat gestures like the pre-game powder throw. (Kevin Garnett did it first). He was not the winner we thought, not by a long shot in the Boston series. He was the fabulous curiosity, the bearded lady, the dancing bear. He rubbed it in, dancing and preening, when the Cavs won and, at least twice, against Boston in 2008 and Orlando in 2009, he left without shaking hands after they lost. By joining the stocked-with-superstars Miami Heat, he becomes on the court what his rooting interests in the New York Yankees and Dallas Cowboys made him off it -- a front-runner. As far as the "multiple" championships go that the abdicated "King" thinks will ratify greatness, is that really so? Until the rise of Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson in the 1980s and '90s, Jerry West and Oscar Robertson were commonly considered the best guards in NBA history. They won two championships between them. Years of excellence established their reputations, despite the obstacles the Bill Russell dynasty presented. James will be compared to Modell, although NBA basketball, of sorts, will continue here, and NFL football, the biggest thing in town by far, did not for three years. Of course Modell should have sold to a local buyer, but he was down to his last resort in order to stay in the game when he moved the Browns to ease his financial burdens. James had plenty of time, at age 25, to redeem his feeble efforts against Boston. Garnett, for example, stayed a decade in a less competitive situation in Minnesota and left more honorably. Modell's move meant he sacrificed his chance for his sport's Hall of Fame. James -- despite the problems he and Dwyane Wade will have in sharing the ball, despite the need to keep the third mercenary, Chris Bosh, happy too -- probably thinks he has won the world. Everywhere but home, although he said he will still live in Akron. Because home is gone. Because it's personal here too. |
Author: | reents [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dan Gilbert |
This is from ESPN.com, saying he quit in the playoffs. CLEVELAND -- Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert says LeBron James "quit" during the playoffs and should be accountable for his actions. Cavs reaction Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert gave his reaction to LeBron James leaving in an open letter to fans on the Cavs website. Letter Gilbert, who posted a letter to Cavs fans on the team's website shortly after James announced he plans to sign with Miami, tells The Associated Press late Thursday night that he feels "personally betrayed" by James and that it's "accountability time." In a phone interview with the AP, Gilbert says "people have covered up for [James] for way too long. Tonight we saw who he really is." Gilbert says James quit on the Cavs during their second-round series against the Boston Celtics, who rallied from a 2-1 deficit to eliminate Cleveland |
Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dan Gilbert |
Any chance Boers is still out tomorrow and we get Bernstein solo (with Goff chiming in) tomorrow? Bernstein will eat this Gilbert letter up like it's a matzo ball during passover. |
Author: | WittyMoniker2 [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dan Gilbert |
"In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight: "I personally guarantee that the Cleveland Cavaliers will win an NBA Championship before the self-titled former 'king' wins one."" I like the jib here, but honestly, aren't the odds against the Cavs? I do feel bad for the Cavs again and it all started with Jordan's game-winner. Poor Greg/Craig Ehlo's expression said it all. |
Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
HOVA wrote: If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Cleveland, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.
Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there. Sorry, but that's simply not how it works. This shocking act of disloyalty from our homegrown "chosen one" sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And "who" we would want them to grow up to become. But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called "curse" on Cleveland, Ohio. The self-declared former "King" will be taking the "curse" with him down south. And until he does "right" by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma. Just watch. championship you have long deserved and is long overdue... Dan Gilbert \ |
Author: | HOVA [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Maybe this happens when you get too much, too soon. Maybe it happens when you forget where you came from, or what you mean to the people of Northeast Ohio. But LeBron James should feel a sense of shame and pain for putting together a self-serving ESPN special to inform the world that he no longer intends to play for the Cavaliers. To sharpen the insult, he titled his switch to the Miami Heat as "The Decision." Yes, that's just like The Fumble, The Drive, The Move, The Shot and other awful moments in the history of Cleveland sports -- and he picked the name? Doesn't anyone in the James camp have a clue of what people back home will think? Doesn't anyone care? Of if they mentioned to James, doesn't he get it? Twenty-five year-olds are usually not the most mature people on the planet. Add in becoming worth $100 million at 18 and a global sports icon a few years later, and perhaps James was building up to this crass, sad moment. He lives in a celebrity bubble where it's very difficult to see any situation except through his own eyes, with his own sense of entitlement. And yes, James is entitled to become a free agent. He can sign with Cavs, the Bulls or anywhere else. But don't make the claim that Miami with a made-for-TV team in Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and a no room in the salary cap for much more than some of James' old St. Vincent-St. Mary teammates is purely about winning. It's hype. It's sizzle. It's about his brand name. But it's not the best basketball situation. Of the teams with salary cap room to sign James, Chicago has the deepest roster. New Jersey has some intriguing young players. The Cavs have won 61 and 66 games in the last two seasons with James, and would be a contender again in the Eastern Conference if he had returned. Yes, James is free to go to Miami. He's free to market himself on ESPN. But fans in his hometown also are free to say that he never should have embarrassed them. They are free to be hurt, because the Cavaliers could have paid him more than any other team. They also have spent more and won more in the last three years than any of main contenders for his services. It's a lot easier to dump contracts and lose games than to keep adding veterans and fat contracts while chasing a title, which the Cavs have done. The fans also are free to wonder what happened to the guy who accepted his first MVP award at his old St. Vincent-St. Mary gym, the next at the University of Akron -- and both times, talking so warmly and sincerely about being at home. James is a remarkable basketball talent. He has wisely stayed out of legal trouble, and generally said and done the right things when in the public spotlight. He leaves as the greatest player in franchise history, and leading the Cavs to their only NBA Finals appearance back in 2007. Never was basketball more fun for Cavaliers fans than during the James Era. But never could anyone have imagined a worse way for it to end than how James delivered his decision Thursday night. |
Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
Good stuff, I don't think LeBron or his new, World Wide Wes-less crew saw this coming. Sheet, I know I didn't. HOVA wrote: CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Chosen One left the money and ran.
Until 9:28 Thursday night, there was still the thought in Cleveland that reports LeBron James would go to Miami as a free agent were a vast smoke screen, like the volcano in Iceland. But they were not. What a surprise that he became monstrously self-centered. By contrast, Tim Duncan could have left the Spurs for Orlando, almost did, then stayed and won three of his four championships afterward. Kobe Bryant almost forced his way out of Los Angeles, then stayed and won two championships among his five overall, in just the last two years. With James, there was always a childish, self-aggrandizing aspect to his game and a divided focus on the importance of winning. He was caught up in hosting the ESPYs and "Saturday Night Live" or making a proposed movie. Such perks once followed winning, but in his case, they preceded it. Because home is gone. Because it's personal here too. |
Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
HOVA wrote: CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Maybe this happens when you get too much, too soon. Maybe it happens when you forget where you came from, or what you mean to the people of Northeast Ohio. But LeBron James should feel a sense of shame and pain for putting together a self-serving ESPN special to inform the world that he no longer intends to play for the Cavaliers. To sharpen the insult, he titled his switch to the Miami Heat as "The Decision." Yes, that's just like The Fumble, The Drive, The Move, The Shot and other awful moments in the history of Cleveland sports -- and he picked the name? Doesn't anyone in the James camp have a clue of what people back home will think? Doesn't anyone care? Of if they mentioned to James, doesn't he get it? Um, is there any way/chance Lebron could change his mind and do something else? it's about 3 hours in and things are going about as well for him as they did for General George Custer at Little Big Horn. |
Author: | schmitty1121 [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
I agree with Gilbert, he did quit in the playoffs. All Lebron's people cover for him. Mav Carter is probably the worse thing for him, and he will realize it eventually when he is broke. |
Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
Gilbert's got da fire and da passhun... and prolly no plan whatsoever. |
Author: | WittyMoniker2 [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
I'm guessing Boozer is quite relieved now that James is now the bigger douche in Northeast Ohio. |
Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
Jalapenos and More wrote: Gilbert's got da fire and da passhun... and prolly no plan whatsoever. True, but it's somewhat inspiring (eh, ok, nice) to see a guy who has mo $$$ than you or I or Lebron react so viscerally to betrayal. But yer right, regardless of Gilbert's planning (Hey, I'll get half the Lakers and half the Celtics to sign with the Cavs)...he has what Chris Farley would call JACK SQUAT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM0zINtulhM |
Author: | Bagels [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
Panther pislA wrote: Gilbert is a fucking stud - with money - watch out! Shit, if he is truly scorned, I bet he wouldn't be above helping another team beat James if the Cavs can't do it for a while. Then he's an idiot (not that he isn't already) |
Author: | Tall Midget [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
Gilbert is torching LeBron to hide his own incompetence. Where was this self-styled moralist prior to LeBron's exodus to Miami? |
Author: | HOVA [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
Tall Midget wrote: Gilbert is torching LeBron to hide his own incompetence. Where was this self-styled moralist prior to LeBron's exodus to Miami? I wouldn't call him incompetent. He did everything possible to help LeBron win. He traded and signed every guy LeBron wanted. I know it's business but LeBron purposely screwed the guy. I'm sure we will find out other things he did for him and his friends in the coming weeks. |
Author: | Tall Midget [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
HOVA wrote: Tall Midget wrote: Gilbert is torching LeBron to hide his own incompetence. Where was this self-styled moralist prior to LeBron's exodus to Miami? I wouldn't call him incompetent. He did everything possible to help LeBron win. He traded and signed every guy LeBron wanted. I know it's business but LeBron purposely screwed the guy. I'm sure we will find out other things he did for him and his friends in the coming weeks. The point, though, is that Gilbert coddled LeBron, but now he's criticizing LeBron for being narcissistic as a result of being coddled by people like himself. |
Author: | HOVA [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
That's true. I see you have a man crush on LeBron. |
Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
The only way Gilbert can draw people next year is to ratchet up the Lebron hate in Cleveland. He needs to get his base fired up. Think of what the republican/tea party has been doing the past 1-2 years. People will care if they are excited. If they feel defeated, they won't come. Some good ideas they can do: 1. Create a mascot that is similar to Lebron and use him for skits you can do during timeouts and halftime. Just ridicule and mock him at every minute possible. 2. Create something where fans that come to the game and turn in their Lebron gear for another player of their choice. Or turn in Lebron gear and get a free pair of tickets, or X% off. 3. Decree that no one will ever wear 23 in Cleveland again. But retire the number in honor of Michael Jordan, not Lebron. Stuff like this would keep fans interested. |
Author: | Tall Midget [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
HOVA wrote: That's true. I see you have a man crush on LeBron. Not really. I think LeBron is a knob. But so is Gilbert. |
Author: | Phil McCracken [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
Douchebag wrote: The only way Gilbert can draw people next year is to ratchet up the Lebron hate in Cleveland. He needs to get his base fired up. Think of what the republican/tea party has been doing the past 1-2 years. People will care if they are excited. If they feel defeated, they won't come. Some good ideas they can do: 1. Create a mascot that is similar to Lebron and use him for skits you can do during timeouts and halftime. Just ridicule and mock him at every minute possible. 2. Create something where fans that come to the game and turn in their Lebron gear for another player of their choice. Or turn in Lebron gear and get a free pair of tickets, or X% off. 3. Decree that no one will ever wear 23 in Cleveland again. But retire the number in honor of Michael Jordan, not Lebron. Stuff like this would keep fans interested. These are actually not bad ideas |
Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
Gilbert's biggest mistake is that he immediately played the "LeBron card." LeBron could've been his human shield to justify the franchise's failures and a potential move to another city. Now, if Gilbert wants to move the team to Seattle or wherever, the failure falls mostly upon him, not LeBron. He might want to invest in some bacon salt because he's going to eat those words. |
Author: | HOVA [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Reaction from Cleveland |
Outside of Miami he managed to piss of a lot of fans and people in the media. Even some guys at ESPN are pissed because they got "played". He really doesn't understand the beating he is going to take for everything. The sad thing is he brought this all on himself. |
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